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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9744 on: October 25, 2020, 10:04:25 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on October 25, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
I’d love to see if Newsom sticks to his own regulations on Thanksgiving.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9745 on: October 25, 2020, 10:06:09 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9746 on: October 26, 2020, 07:21:16 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 25, 2020, 06:19:56 PM
An he's facing a populace that largely ignores what they SHOULD do, he's amplifying it up a step in an attempt to get the desired behavior by using CAN'T. 

At least around where I live, the population is not only not ignoring what we should do, they are largely practicing safe walking about.

I don't think making something illegal, especially when it cannot be enforced, would help.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9747 on: October 26, 2020, 07:44:34 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 25, 2020, 06:20:23 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say their present is our future AGAIN. 
Yes, and I do not see a practicable means to stopping this.  Europe has these allegedly enlightened leaders and often a much more centralized government, and yet they have not stopped this rise in case counts.

Criticism of the US "approach" would carry more weight if they were doing a better job in Europe.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9748 on: October 26, 2020, 07:59:27 AM »
I don't think it's going to be as bad here in the US. By and large, everyone I see is doing what they are supposed to be doing. And none of it involves sitting in a basement. There aren't any basements here anyway.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9749 on: October 26, 2020, 08:03:40 AM »
We often follow Europe by 2 weeks or so.  I still don't understand why.  Weather?  Probably not.  School?  Maybe.

Going back to old ways?  Maybe.

A new strain?  Maybe, interesting to expect this perhaps?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9750 on: October 26, 2020, 08:15:56 AM »
A lot of colleges and universities are sending their students home at Thanksgiving to finish the semester there.  We may see a bump in the number of cases the first week of December as a result.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9751 on: October 26, 2020, 08:17:16 AM »
I still don't understand the notion that the US has done some horrific job with this when Europe is in such a crisis.  

Some things are not controllable in life.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9752 on: October 26, 2020, 08:52:29 AM »
I understand it just fine. It became politicized, unfortunately.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9753 on: October 26, 2020, 08:55:03 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 26, 2020, 08:03:40 AM
We often follow Europe by 2 weeks or so.  I still don't understand why.  Weather?  Probably not.  School?  Maybe.

Going back to old ways?  Maybe.

A new strain?  Maybe, interesting to expect this perhaps?
We'll see about the death counts. I don't think we will be anywhere near as bad as we were in the Spring. Doctors seem more confident than many of "us" are about this thing.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9754 on: October 26, 2020, 09:01:20 AM »
Deaths have perked up some in Europe, but not nearly where they were in April.  The combination of protecting the vulnerable and better treatment has helped of course.

I am curious as to whether the virus continues to morph into perhaps more contagious but less virulent strains.  It is plausible that it has, meaning as some here say, we'll all get it, but it won't be that bad for many of us.

The mortality rates appear to have fallen significantly.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9755 on: October 26, 2020, 09:13:07 AM »
Yep. And we're all going to get it. Hopefully it's mostly asymptomatic or very mild for everyone.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9756 on: October 26, 2020, 01:37:11 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 26, 2020, 09:01:20 AM
Deaths have perked up some in Europe, but not nearly where they were in April.  The combination of protecting the vulnerable and better treatment has helped of course.

I am curious as to whether the virus continues to morph into perhaps more contagious but less virulent strains.  It is plausible that it has, meaning as some here say, we'll all get it, but it won't be that bad for many of us.

The mortality rates appear to have fallen significantly.

Except in the Czech Republic, which just doesn't seem to be behaving like the large majority of its European counterparts.  I continue to be perplexed.  

All I can think of, is that the deaths were so low and cases were so mild in their first wave, that they just didn't develop any expertise on handling it.  Or, their healthcare system is just atrocious.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9757 on: October 26, 2020, 01:54:45 PM »
I think there are a lot of reasons we're seeing a change in the mortality rate:


  • Better treatments is definitely one.
  • More knowledge about the virus and more access to testing, so people are able and willing to get tested earlier, and seek treatment earlier. 
  • Skew to a younger demographic in the infections.
  • Much more testing so instead of only testing symptomatic people and those who need acute care, we're testing anyone who wants it and actually testing asymptomatic people as part of contact tracing. 

I don't think we have evidence, at least at this time, that it has mutated to a significantly less deadly strain. I'd love to be wrong on that though. 

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