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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9366 on: October 16, 2020, 09:48:54 AM »
Ed Zachery

I'm guessing, because I'm not a scientist or an "expert", but common sense tells me that having football means there are thousands of players, coaches, and staff that are being more careful and being tested on a daily or more regular basis than if football was cancelled.

My uneducated guess is that football, basketball, baseball, other sports with all the added precautions are helping slow the spread of the virus.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9367 on: October 16, 2020, 09:49:59 AM »
That would be my guess as well, we have folks being hyper-vigilant playing sports and doing other things.

One thing that has not happened apparently is widely spread infections of health care workers.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9368 on: October 16, 2020, 09:54:45 AM »
Seems to me the players and coaches and parents think differently. If they all isolate properly, it's not a problem. That is totally on them. If they want to play, they need to be careful. End of story.

Same goes for any of us.

Is golf and stops in bars essential?
absolutely not!


in some folks opinion I'm a giant asshat.

the government should be restricting my opportunities to spread the virus since I'm too stupid or selfish to do it myself.

there are obviously two ways of thinking on this.  I don't feel one way is right and the other way is wrong.  But, many folks can't open their minds that far.  It's only right in their opinion and it's obviously WRONG if someone thinks differently.

similar to politics.  Therefore, a country divided.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9369 on: October 16, 2020, 09:57:11 AM »
That would be my guess as well, we have folks being hyper-vigilant playing sports and doing other things.

One thing that has not happened apparently is widely spread infections of health care workers.
because health care works are hyper-vigilant as well.
heck, perhaps someone should do a study or a survey or a poll.  Are people in sports and or health care being infected at a different rate than the general population?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9370 on: October 16, 2020, 09:58:48 AM »
It's unfortunate that this Chinese attack has been politicized. 

Makes me wonder what would happen if another 9/11 occurred. Would we rally as a country like last time? Or, would we blame the government for not doing enough? 

We know the administration before GWB didn't do enough with Osama when it had the chance. Nobody bitched and moaned about that though. What has changed?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9371 on: October 16, 2020, 10:00:38 AM »
the younger generations, millennials, snowflakes, participation trophies 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9372 on: October 16, 2020, 10:07:19 AM »
One thing that has not happened apparently is widely spread infections of health care workers.
Thankfully,i'm sure because mostly they have followed proper procedure/protocol.I'm sure based on people in health care I've spoken with some of it has been on inflated/inaccurate numbers with healthy and patients with weakened/compromised condintions
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9373 on: October 16, 2020, 01:14:35 PM »
I just really want to know what others think we should be doing. Gigem gave his thoughts. CDawg has given thoughts. I've shared mine.
Not many want to provide details, it's easier to criticize and claim what we're doing is wrong obviously.

What was suggested is pretty much what is being done.
And I've shared mine, which were largely that what we're doing is the right thing, but there is such inconsistent messaging about what we're doing and WHY that it's not being followed.

As CDawg mentioned, mask adherence to protocol is hit or miss, both in Atlanta and during his recent travels. 

As I mentioned when I shared mine, people are spending more time arguing over what we can or cannot do and spending a lot less time trying to educate on what you SHOULD do to remain safe and reduce the spread. 

And because we failed to educate as we came out of the second wave, the third wave is here. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9374 on: October 16, 2020, 01:37:59 PM »
Ed Zachery

I'm guessing, because I'm not a scientist or an "expert", but common sense tells me that having football means there are thousands of players, coaches, and staff that are being more careful and being tested on a daily or more regular basis than if football was cancelled.

My uneducated guess is that football, basketball, baseball, other sports with all the added precautions are helping slow the spread of the virus.
That would be my guess as well, we have folks being hyper-vigilant playing sports and doing other things.

One thing that has not happened apparently is widely spread infections of health care workers.
False choice. Not playing football/sports means that they don't have a large outside pressure to protect themselves; it does not mean that they will automatically become reckless. 

I'd venture to say that I have a MUCH lower chance of infection than any collegiate or professional athlete that is currently playing (except maybe NBA/NHL because they set up real bubbles). I WFH and generally social distance otherwise, my wife works in a very small office where they wear masks and she generally social distances otherwise. We rarely go out for non-essential reasons, and wear masks when we do. The kids (who we have 40% of the time) are required to wear masks at school. So far amongst three kids there are no known cases across either of the two schools. 

Now, you can claim that a collegiate athlete, if they weren't subject to that outside pressure, might be [like most college students] stupid about what precautions they take. I can't argue what COULD happen. But I argue that taking good precautions and not playing contact sports is less dangerous than taking good precautions and playing contact sports. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9375 on: October 16, 2020, 02:25:00 PM »
Who is being reckless?
anybody who is not staying home and going nowhere is being reckless:96:

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9376 on: October 16, 2020, 02:40:56 PM »
Now, you can claim that a collegiate athlete, if they weren't subject to that outside pressure, might be [like most college students] stupid about what precautions they take. I can't argue what COULD happen. But I argue that taking good precautions and not playing contact sports is less dangerous than taking good precautions and playing contact sports.
like I said, I'm not an expert, but common sense tells me thousands of athletes are taking better precautions because of that outside pressure.

You argue whatever side you'd like.  human beings overall, not just this age group behave better with an outside pressure.  Get some scientific evidence. If psychology can be scientific. I don't have any.  Just my common sense.

the other common sense tells me that having these thousands of athletes being tested much more regularly and then having the outside force to quarantine themselves properly if/when they test positive is also better overall
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9377 on: October 16, 2020, 02:41:13 PM »
It's unfortunate that this Chinese attack has been politicized.

Makes me wonder what would happen if another 9/11 occurred. Would we rally as a country like last time? Or, would we blame the government for not doing enough?

We know the administration before GWB didn't do enough with Osama when it had the chance. Nobody bitched and moaned about that though. What has changed?
Probably the lack of evidence.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9378 on: October 16, 2020, 02:42:06 PM »
Ed Zachery

I'm guessing, because I'm not a scientist or an "expert", but common sense tells me that having football means there are thousands of players, coaches, and staff that are being more careful and being tested on a daily or more regular basis than if football was cancelled.

My uneducated guess is that football, basketball, baseball, other sports with all the added precautions are helping slow the spread of the virus.
The best part is that we'll have no clue how many fans go back home and get sick or die and spread it to others.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #9379 on: October 16, 2020, 02:43:29 PM »
well, we know how many fans the Big Ten is allowing

well, maybe not, they've said, Family members
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