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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8974 on: September 26, 2020, 08:16:41 AM »
So, Fro, give me your prediction for Florida, rather than just being snarky.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8975 on: September 26, 2020, 08:46:08 AM »
Just saw on the news that Florida has opened up all restaurants  and bars both inside and out
Yes, this doesn't mean they all will of course.  Individuals can decide not to patronize any that look crowded.  Or not.

Most restaurants here are laboring to get even partial seating near full, at least the nicer ones are.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

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ctive cases in Florida have been trending down, even as schools reopened.  There are several plausible explanations for this.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

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weden MIGHT be seeing a slight increase trend in new cases.  They report 400-500 per day, Georgia is 1400 or so.  Georgia still has limits on large gatherings of course, night clubs, etc.

It drives me crazy trying to tease out a solid explanation for all the data.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8976 on: September 26, 2020, 08:55:46 AM »
The Florida Governor is allowing the people of his state to choose. 

Imagine that. A public official keeping his nose out of private business. Who'd have thunk it?



"We never closed down over the summer," he said, later adding: "We have been open. The final piece to the puzzle was this capacity limitation on the restaurants at 50%. So that was the announcement today that brought that in for a landing. A lot of those folks in that industry have had a really, really rough time."


"We have to have a situation where individuals can make decisions about what makes sense for them," the governor said. "If it's something you are not comfortable doing, nobody will force you to do it. But I think people need to be free to choose."
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8977 on: September 26, 2020, 08:58:12 AM »
I wonder how many restaurants in FL need full capacity now.  Maybe on weekends?

I really worry that the "second phase" of unemployment is about to ravage the country.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8978 on: September 26, 2020, 08:59:51 AM »
I worry for that too. Much more so than I worry about the virus.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8979 on: September 26, 2020, 09:21:06 AM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/01/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s

A lot of employers depend on foot traffic.  They tend to be employers of lower paid people, salespersons, wait staff, etc.  As retail and hospitality close, it's those folks most vulnerable, and they tend to have less of a cushion financially.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8980 on: September 26, 2020, 09:27:35 AM »
Exactly right. That's the biggest problem here that I see, followed closely by the office and commercial rental industry. That bubble has yet to burst, and it will be ugly.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8981 on: September 26, 2020, 09:36:12 AM »
The Big Employers are doing OK, mostly, hospitality aside.  My problem is I can't "spend any money", which sounds absurd, but the things we used to enjoy are largely unavailable now, or very limited (travel, dining).

Any notion of going to Brazil is out, the wife's sister has told her most of her staff is infected.  Brazil has a bad outbreak.

France is obviously not on the table.  Any cruise is out.  These things are not even under slight consideration.  We do dine out a bit, but like many of youse, I don't mind cooking at home.  We have a three night driving trip planned for October, and I know I'm taking some additional risk there.  I think it is "OK".  

The symphony is out, football and soccer games are out, there are no conventions, downtown must be completely cracking.  The airport has to be struggling with all the vendors with places there.  Lots of folks must be behind on their rent or mortgage, the city has to be way under water, MARTA is way down, the state is losing big time.

When I think about it too much it's really depressing and I don't see a viable solution.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8982 on: September 26, 2020, 09:41:58 AM »
We use Hilton products when we travel. Stayed at two Hampton Inns on the way down this week. You can smell the bleach in the rooms, and they also use UV robots. It's very comforting.

I would not feel safe in a Motel 6 or Super 8 or Red Roof, etc.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8983 on: September 26, 2020, 10:03:50 AM »
I stayed at Motel 6 and Super8 type places back in college.  I definitely haven't done it since.

Most of my status is with Starwood, so Westins and W hotels and Aloft are the places I tend to stay.  Even in years when I don't travel enough, I have a friend that's placed highly in the Luxury Comps group, so he keeps my status at the Platinum Elite level.   There are some pretty great perks at that level, over the past two decades I've gotten all kinds of upgrades, and quite a few free rooms for family and friends in New Orleans, Vegas, NY, Boston, and elsewhere.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8984 on: September 26, 2020, 10:16:21 AM »
Yeah, when my wife worked, Hilton was the brand of choice for her company (Baxter). That's why we stick with them. Before that, it was Marriott, which I would also feel comfortable with. We just don't have anymore status there, so we stick with Hilton now. We travel enough to keep our status with them.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8985 on: September 26, 2020, 10:34:55 AM »
I like Hiltons fine.  My favorite resort in Playa del Carmen was recently bought out by them, and the service got even better.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8986 on: September 26, 2020, 11:21:31 AM »
I wonder if the hotel chains/airlines are going to consider 2020 a mulligan for travelers with status? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8987 on: September 26, 2020, 12:12:27 PM »
Most are, Delta and Hilton are already.  I think it worthwhile this year to pay a bit more for a nicer place.  We're staying at two Hiltons and one Holiday Inn property because I get one night at HI free each year.  I used points for the Hampton Inns in NC.


 

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