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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8554 on: September 08, 2020, 03:26:00 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 08, 2020, 02:59:29 PM
you really want to see another study?

by who?  someone leaning left or right?

how about an anonymous expert?
nope the dems have all those anonymous sources tied up
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8555 on: September 08, 2020, 03:30:15 PM »
I'm just an armchair epidemiologist. 

But I'm going to assume that the experts would be or are studying it if there is any relevance. 

If there's not (because they know that influenza and COVID are completely different virus families), then so be it. 

But with all the studies being done, I would state the absence of any studies on this as evidence that there's no relationship. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8556 on: September 08, 2020, 03:35:14 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on September 08, 2020, 03:30:15 PM
I'm just an armchair epidemiologist.

But I'm going to assume that the experts would be or are studying it if there is any relevance.

If there's not (because they know that influenza and COVID are completely different virus families), then so be it.

But with all the studies being done, I would state the absence of any studies on this as evidence that there's no relationship.
why is it so unbelievable that whatever the flu vaccine does to your body might also help or hurt against the virus

if this is completely impossible then fine I'll go back to sleep
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8557 on: September 08, 2020, 03:40:14 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on September 08, 2020, 03:35:14 PM
why is it so unbelievable that whatever the flu vaccine does to your body might also help or hurt against the virus

if this is completely impossible then fine I'll go back to sleep
I don't know if it's "completely impossible", but it's comparing apples and oranges.

It's like looking at an athlete who can hit a MLB curveball and asking "well, shouldn't that make him a better field goal kicker?"
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8558 on: September 08, 2020, 03:46:48 PM »
you're talking about Darin Erstad, obviously
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8559 on: September 08, 2020, 04:08:08 PM »
Influenza is very different from a corona virus, so resistance to one is unlikely to provide anything vs the other, just as a polio shot isn't going to help resist meningitis.

Other corona virus infections MIGHT provide some basis for recognition by our immune system, maybe, perhaps.  Or not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8560 on: September 08, 2020, 05:29:24 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on September 08, 2020, 03:40:14 PM
I don't know if it's "completely impossible", but it's comparing apples and oranges.

It's like looking at an athlete who can hit a MLB curveball and asking "well, shouldn't that make him a better field goal kicker?"
Bad analogy,a knuckle ball or a change up perhaps but a field Goal? - um,not seeing it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8561 on: September 08, 2020, 05:41:30 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on September 08, 2020, 05:29:24 PM
Bad analogy,a knuckle ball or a change up perhaps but a field Goal? - um,not seeing it
I stand by the analogy. Perhaps relative to other variants of coronavirus (fastball, curveball, slider), this one is a knuckle ball. And perhaps someone who can hit other pitches (their immune system is trained to recognize certain proteins in coronavirus) is a quicker study at hitting the knuckle ball, than someone without any baseball experience. 

There is some evidence of cross-immunity between strains of influenza, as I understand it. But it's a completely different sport. If the various strains of coronaviruses are like different pitches in baseball, the various strains of influenza are like knowing the different route trees as a wide receiver. It's still a different sport. 

The only reasons this gets compared to the flu so often are due to the symptoms, and due to some of our biggest previous pandemics being the Spanish flu, swine flu, bird flu, etc. It's not due to any similarities in the structure of the virus. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8562 on: September 08, 2020, 05:44:35 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on September 08, 2020, 03:30:15 PM
I'm just an armchair epidemiologist.

But I'm going to assume that the experts would be or are studying it if there is any relevance.

If there's not (because they know that influenza and COVID are completely different virus families), then so be it.

But with all the studies being done, I would state the absence of any studies on this as evidence that there's no relationship.
You got a nice armchair?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8563 on: September 08, 2020, 05:55:22 PM »
GA 7 day average for new reported cases down to 1,808, half what it was in late June.  Yesterday was 1,543, which could reflect the holiday weekend accounting.

This is far better than I had expected back in June.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8564 on: September 08, 2020, 06:19:37 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8565 on: September 08, 2020, 06:48:26 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8566 on: September 08, 2020, 07:02:31 PM »
It well could be an individual had a reaction or illness completely unassociated with the vaccine of course.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8567 on: September 08, 2020, 07:15:43 PM »
I've read that particular vaccine had a high rate of mild side effects
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