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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8288 on: August 27, 2020, 12:55:25 PM »
Cincy is advocating for it by sheer volume of mentions, imo.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8289 on: August 27, 2020, 01:26:34 PM »
@Cincydawg one aspect of this that I still find interesting is the weather aspect.

Respiratory viruses tend to be worst in the cooler weather. We all hoped that it would go away when the summer came; and obviously it didn't do that. So I think to some extent we started assuming it was NOT affected by weather. 

But I wonder whether this pattern of "high initial cases, then dropping off significantly" is lulling us into a false sense of security as we approach fall temperatures?

I.e. that there's a certain percentage who caught it very quickly and easily, regardless of the temp. As that wave subsided, and as we've gotten into the heat of summer, there is a natural suppression that's going on as it does with other illnesses of this nature. Will the fall remove that suppression and cases will start exploding again?

Obviously we don't know enough about this thing, but that's one of those things I worry about. 

I.e. if for example Sweden is being "mostly careful" with their behavior PLUS the natural suppression of warmer weather, will they see spikes when the warm weather goes away at their current level of "mostly careful" behavior? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8290 on: August 27, 2020, 01:46:19 PM »
Well, that's depressing.  And yes, perhaps this is weather related in Sweden.  The jump in the US South coincided with hot weather of course, but also came a few weeks after "reopening" as well.

That unfortunately appears to be a viable hypothesis.

Bummer.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8291 on: August 27, 2020, 01:59:17 PM »
I don't know any more than the rest of you about this virus, obviously.

But I'll speculate that the primary weather-related influence of this virus isn't specific to the virus itself, but rather the behavior of people.  The increased spread of the virus occurs when the weather pushes people indoors, to mingle with other people indoors.  

So in the South, it's possible that the hot summer weather outside actually exacerbates this occurrence.  And in the North (and Europe), the winter weather will do the same.

Which is also somewhat depressing, but there you have it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8292 on: August 27, 2020, 02:03:35 PM »
I have read articles suggesting our nasal passages are more prone to colds in winter because they dry out.  That makes some sense to me.

Colds are corona virii of course.  So if being indoors in winter means we dry out our noses, this could be bad for COVID.  And as you note, Southern folks tend to stay more indoors in summer, which is not good anyway apparently.  

It's been a pretty nice summer here at least, we have been dining out often.  Not last night though, it was muggy around 7 PM, and then at 9 PM it was decent.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8293 on: August 27, 2020, 02:32:51 PM »
One of the things I've been doing regularly is using the Neilmed nasal moisturizing spray. But, I've been doing that for years.

You dry out in airplanes too.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8294 on: August 27, 2020, 03:08:36 PM »
and Cruise ships?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8295 on: August 27, 2020, 03:15:06 PM »
and Cruise ships?
Carnival has been sending me info on lots of great deals lately...

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8296 on: August 27, 2020, 03:19:24 PM »
and Cruise ships?
Nope. Never had that problem.

Would never go on a Carnival either. One and done there.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8297 on: August 27, 2020, 04:06:03 PM »
I don't know any more than the rest of you about this virus, obviously.

But I'll speculate that the primary weather-related influence of this virus isn't specific to the virus itself, but rather the behavior of people.  The increased spread of the virus occurs when the weather pushes people indoors, to mingle with other people indoors. 

So in the South, it's possible that the hot summer weather outside actually exacerbates this occurrence.  And in the North (and Europe), the winter weather will do the same.

Which is also somewhat depressing, but there you have it.

But does that actually hold true in practice with other respiratory viruses? I've never heard that the South gets inverse behavior with respiratory viruses.

I can say that here in Southern California, it still seems to follow seasonal patterns. Granted, we don't have the humidity that y'all have back east, so maybe our heat isn't quite as oppressive. But I've never heard about this in, say, Phoenix either. And nobody goes outside for a few months in the summer if they can avoid it there. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8298 on: August 27, 2020, 04:32:13 PM »
Local college came into classes sounding like it was more ready than most to try to ride out an early spike, owing to some situations where summer folks came back, saw a rise and then fall.

One week into classes saw a big spike the last day of testing, doubling the previous few. We'll see if it goes up fast enough to bother them into changes. The leading admin sounded not enthused in the article I read, but also didn't pull the plug.

(it will also be weird because if they go online only, it's not gonna put much of a dent in the local student population)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8299 on: August 27, 2020, 04:53:53 PM »
DES MOINES, Iowa — During her press conference on Thursday, Governor Kim Reynolds says due to a recent uptick in COVID-19 cases among ages 19-24, all bars in six counties are required to close Thursday at 5 p.m. until Sept. 20.

Those counties include Linn, Johnson, Black Hawk, Dallas, Polk and Story.

The new proclamation includes breweries, taverns and nightclubs.

She also says restaurants in these counties will be required to stop selling alcohol at 10 p.m.
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« Reply #8300 on: August 27, 2020, 05:04:03 PM »
DES MOINES, Iowa — During her press conference on Thursday, Governor Kim Reynolds says due to a recent uptick in COVID-19 cases among ages 19-24, all bars in six counties are required to close Thursday at 5 p.m. until Sept. 20.

Those counties include Linn, Johnson, Black Hawk, Dallas, Polk and Story.

The new proclamation includes breweries, taverns and nightclubs.

She also says restaurants in these counties will be required to stop selling alcohol at 10 p.m.

that might be a good move
at least she put a target end date on it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8301 on: August 27, 2020, 05:08:08 PM »
In France, bars now have to close at 10 PM because the virus wakes up right at that time, apparently.


 

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