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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7770 on: August 04, 2020, 07:32:25 AM »
so maybe we need to develop COVID 19 Jr  and give a weaker version to everybody
That would be a vaccine.

I don't see how Sweden changed its spots nationally 6 weeks or so ago and started behaving such that this thing stopped almost on a dime.

As for schools, this would be our only hope, that this is correct, but unfortunately, if adults contracted this "preCOVID", it could well have been 10 years distant.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7771 on: August 04, 2020, 07:34:53 AM »
France already restarted in person school, a month ago, for two weeks.  They are on planned vacation since and restart in September.  My step grand kids apparently were mostly anxious to restart school.  The US is not the only country restarting obviously, but K-12 in France and most EU is controlled by central government, not local.

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« Reply #7772 on: August 04, 2020, 09:10:43 AM »
Definitely thinking about it.

I don't know your wife's behavior. Personally if I had it and I went into the office, I'd likely barely spread it because I rarely talk to anyone. Maybe your wife was the office social butterfly; I don't know. Nor do I know the timeframe you're talking about.

We've got a lot to learn on this thing. But the little we know doesn't really justify a belief in 50% of the population having had it at this time. Maybe that's the truth, but I'm still in the "show me" mode on that.
My wife is a social butterfly, and she was the head honcho of marketing communications for Baxter. She had a lot of meetings. Obviously she didn't know she had it. I didn't know I had it, until I had the antibody test months later.
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« Reply #7773 on: August 04, 2020, 09:13:20 AM »
We know what's going to happen and yet we're just going to shove people into schools......this is reason number 191383837173 why the U.S. isn't the best country in the world.  We're fucking stupid.
The US is by far the best country in the world. Go find us a better one. Good luck.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7775 on: August 04, 2020, 10:05:59 AM »
  • The United States confirmed 44,511 new cases of COVID-19 yesterday, with 6.1 percent of the 725,902 tests reported coming back positive. An additional 392 deaths were attributed to the virus on Sunday (2,786 over the weekend), bringing the pandemic’s American death toll to 154,841.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7776 on: August 04, 2020, 10:27:01 AM »
The US is by far the best country in the world. Go find us a better one. Good luck.
As with most things, it's very easy to find fault with what is in front of you.  It's less apparent what the faults may be elsewhere.

I've mentioned before the wife has said NO emphatically to any thought of living in France.  I envision living in Provence and having a vineyard and making my own cult wine and eating cheese and soaking some rays all day ....


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7777 on: August 04, 2020, 10:31:15 AM »
Just realized that I posted yesterday's COVID report rather than today's.


  • The United States confirmed 47,711 new cases of COVID-19 yesterday, with 6.5 percent of the 731,690 tests reported coming back positive. An additional 547 deaths were attributed to the virus on Monday, bringing the pandemic’s American death toll to 155,388.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7778 on: August 04, 2020, 10:50:42 AM »
I distrust what we are doing with school reopenings. In June most of us were being convinced with warmer weather the virus would be tamped down. It wasn't tamped down. It plateaued or rose in most parts of the USA, so now school reopenings appear contraindicated, and yet we are a stubborn people being led down a path like sheep into a position that will most probably appear hopeless.
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A few of you are generalizing.

Our schools in Austin aren't reopening in person, they're doing the first 3 weeks online-only, and then they're going to reevaluate on 9/8.  Since I don't see any chance in finding that the situation is any more, nor less, dangerous than it is currently, I anticipate the districts to kick the can down the road and stay online-only for another 4-6 weeks.  But on 10/8, the situation still won't be any more nor less dangerous than it was on 9/8.  Same goes for 11/8 and 12/8.

I don't see any way that our schools in Austin will reopen in-person for the entire Fall of 2020.  A lot of other places will do the same thing.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7779 on: August 04, 2020, 10:55:51 AM »
A few of you are generalizing.

Our schools in Austin aren't reopening in person, they're doing the first 3 weeks online-only, and then they're going to reevaluate on 9/8.  Since I don't see any chance in finding that the situation is any more, nor less, dangerous than it is currently, I anticipate the districts to kick the can down the road and stay online-only for another 4-6 weeks.  But on 10/8, the situation still won't be any more nor less dangerous than it was on 9/8.  Same goes for 11/8 and 12/8.

I don't see any way that our schools in Austin will reopen in-person for the entire Fall of 2020.  A lot of other places will do the same thing.

Well, it's easy. If people start thinking about others before themselves, and start putting "reducing the spread" ahead of their own instant self-gratification, we can get the numbers to a level where reopening would be quite safe.

So... Not until we get a vaccine. 

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« Reply #7780 on: August 04, 2020, 11:07:32 AM »
Well, it's easy. If people start thinking about others before themselves, and start putting "reducing the spread" ahead of their own instant self-gratification, we can get the numbers to a level where reopening would be quite safe.

So... Not until we get a vaccine.
so, we get the numbers to where reopening would be quite safe, then we reopen and pack kids into classrooms and the spread comes back?
or you're simply saying shutdown until we get an effective vaccine?
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« Reply #7781 on: August 04, 2020, 11:09:55 AM »
The National Institutes of Health announced Tuesday it is starting two trials testing whether an experimental antibody drug can work as a safe and effective treatment in patients with Covid-19.

The trials, called ACTIV-2 and ACTIV-3, will look at U.S. drugmaker Eli Lilly’s experimental treatment known as LY-CoV555, which is being developed in partnership with Canadian biotech AbCellera. The companies announced Monday they began a phase three trial testing whether the treatment can prevent the spread of coronavirus in residents and staff at nursing homes.

One of the trials will test Eli Lilly’s experimental treatment on people with mild to moderate Covid-19 symptoms who have not been hospitalized.

The second trial, in a late stage, will look patients who have been hospitalized with mild to moderate Covid-19 with fewer than 13 days of symptoms and aims to enroll a total of 1,000 people. Once selected for the trial, participants will be randomly assigned to receive either an intravenous infusion of the drug or a saline placebo infusion.

Participants will also receive standard care, including doses of Gilead Sciences antiviral drug remdesivir. Participants will be assessed after five days and followed for 90 days after enrolling in the trial.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/coronavirus-us-begins-2-trials-testing-eli-lillys-coronavirus-antibody-drug.html
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7782 on: August 04, 2020, 11:13:27 AM »
so, we get the numbers to where reopening would be quite safe, then we reopen and pack kids into classrooms and the spread comes back?
or you're simply saying shutdown until we get an effective vaccine?

Yeah, this.  Those that believe that child-to-adult transmission is likely, aren't going to believe it's any LESS likely, one month from now, two months from now, or six months from now. 

Declining numbers in cases/hospitalizations is a good thing of course, but since school still isn't back in session, it's not really a meaningful trend for those who are concerned about child-to-adult transmission.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7783 on: August 04, 2020, 11:14:09 AM »
The National Institutes of Health announced Tuesday it is starting two trials testing whether an experimental antibody drug can work as a safe and effective treatment in patients with Covid-19.

The trials, called ACTIV-2 and ACTIV-3, will look at U.S. drugmaker Eli Lilly’s experimental treatment known as LY-CoV555, which is being developed in partnership with Canadian biotech AbCellera. The companies announced Monday they began a phase three trial testing whether the treatment can prevent the spread of coronavirus in residents and staff at nursing homes.

One of the trials will test Eli Lilly’s experimental treatment on people with mild to moderate Covid-19 symptoms who have not been hospitalized.

The second trial, in a late stage, will look patients who have been hospitalized with mild to moderate Covid-19 with fewer than 13 days of symptoms and aims to enroll a total of 1,000 people. Once selected for the trial, participants will be randomly assigned to receive either an intravenous infusion of the drug or a saline placebo infusion.

Participants will also receive standard care, including doses of Gilead Sciences antiviral drug remdesivir. Participants will be assessed after five days and followed for 90 days after enrolling in the trial.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/coronavirus-us-begins-2-trials-testing-eli-lillys-coronavirus-antibody-drug.html
Thats great but why are they not also testing against non positive folks to see if they can avoid the virus
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