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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7462 on: July 29, 2020, 11:23:46 AM »
An irrational view is irrational, no matter how many people believe it.  And no, I'm not being insulting, I'm using the word 'irrational' correctly and matter-of-factly.
Irrational and non-rational are not the same thing.
Your support of Gator football is non-rational.
Love is non-rational.  So is hate.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7463 on: July 29, 2020, 11:25:42 AM »
CW this woman may be full of crap but she isnt the only doctor saying things like this
Maybe so, 320.  In that case, it would be better to cite the other doctors.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7464 on: July 29, 2020, 11:28:44 AM »
The preponderence of clinical data does not support use of chlorohydroxyquine for treatment or prevention of COVID.

Each "side" (and it's unfortunate we have "sides") can cherry pick data and results, but if you review it ALL, the story if far from compelling, and the positive results that exist are not very impressive, to me.

There should be no side but TRUTH, to the best of our ability to assess it, and I'll leave that to the doctors, aside from forming my personal opinion at this point.


The doctors don’t agree.  Not even close.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7465 on: July 29, 2020, 11:31:14 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7466 on: July 29, 2020, 11:33:33 AM »
opening yourself to public ridicule is not very much of an incentive unless you turn out to be right
We've got a very high public official in our country who opens himself up to public ridicule by making false or at best unverifiable claims multiple times each day.
Some people operate on the theory that negative attention is better than no attention at all.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7467 on: July 29, 2020, 11:49:17 AM »
We've got a very high public official in our country who opens himself up to public ridicule by making false or at best unverifiable claims multiple times each day.
Some people operate on the theory that negative attention is better than no attention at all.
I would like to respond here but whats the use it will just be deleted 

have a nice day

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7468 on: July 29, 2020, 12:01:57 PM »
So you believed in Kaepernick's kneeling, BLM's protesting, et al?  MMMMMMMMMkay.
I can tell you I absolutely believed in his right to kneel and BLM’s right to protest.  Now, did I agree with their platforms? Absolutely not.  I believe both were protesting more of a narrative than anything that is backed by facts.  But I absolutely believe in their right to peacefully protest something they feel is an injustice.  Now as soon as peaceful protests become riots then it’s time to shut that shit down.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7469 on: July 29, 2020, 12:35:29 PM »
230 does not protect Cleveland Zplain Desler, Fox News-or WSJ. 

it protects the tech giants who host content on their platform- precisely because they can’t control all content. But they are over hiding behind that protection to promote a political agenda and censoring opposing views- extremely reasonable and often majority supported rules. That is precisely what they committed not to do.
So you're saying someone could sue all those outlets for what's written in the comments below articles?

Man, the lawyers are getting lazy if they're not taking advantage of that. 

Also, there is not a single thing in 230 that demands political balance. That standard is made all the way up.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7470 on: July 29, 2020, 01:02:52 PM »
Why do so many of you insist on banging your heads against walls?  Weird.

Anyway, please keep the blatant political stuff to the other thread.  I think the discussions of HCQ and its various support and opposition are appropriate for this thread, tough.

And I'll agree with HonestBuckeye that the doctors absolutely DO NOT agree on HCQ, and the science is far from settled, if such a thing can ever even apply in a situation like this.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7471 on: July 29, 2020, 01:10:48 PM »
So you're saying someone could sue all those outlets for what's written in the comments below articles?

Man, the lawyers are getting lazy if they're not taking advantage of that.

Also, there is not a single thing in 230 that demands political balance. That standard is made all the way up.
I obviously do not have the ability, or the desire, to change your mind.  You are not getting my point- as evidenced by your repeated attempts ( innocently) to rephrase my point- incorrectly 
that’s ok.  
I can only say I am a huge supporter of freedom of speech and a huge opponent of censorship of opposing points of view.  I am disappointed at how much that is going on now.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7472 on: July 29, 2020, 01:35:58 PM »
You've got lots of good ideas, lots of interesting ideas, and some really boneheaded/ignorant ideas.  But we often don't get to discuss the ideas, because we're reacting to the way you put them across instead.

P.S. Saying that you're right and we're all wrong is part of the problem.
And if you some how think he's going to come into possession of anything resembling a CLUE then Believing in demon seed,alien DNA and doctor's ability to analyze a pandemic isn't so far fetched
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7473 on: July 29, 2020, 02:19:32 PM »
I scrolled through 3 or 4 pages of crap since last night

hope I didn't miss anything important
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7474 on: July 29, 2020, 02:20:26 PM »
I scrolled through 3 or 4 pages of crap since last night

hope I didn't miss anything important

Haha.  You didn’t miss A thing. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7475 on: July 29, 2020, 02:27:26 PM »

July 28, 2020
All spikes aren’t equal
Much of the world is now coping with a coronavirus resurgence.
The number of new daily cases has risen more than 20 percent in both Europe and Canada over the past week. It’s up about 40 percent in Australia and Japan. Hong Kong reported 145 cases yesterday, its highest one-day count yet and the sixth straight day of more than 100 new cases.
All of these increases are worrisome reminders that crushing the virus is not a one-time event, at least not until a vaccine is available. It involves constant vigilance.
As countries take steps toward more normal functioning — reopening schools, workplaces and restaurants, for instance — they will often spark new outbreaks, which in turn will require more tests, quarantines and even limited lockdowns.
And yet all of these places are in a very different situation from the United States:

By The New York Times | Source: Johns Hopkins University

Even with the recent surges, the outbreaks elsewhere are much more contained and manageable than in the U.S. The U.S. has had about 15 times as many confirmed new cases, per capita, as Canada over the past week and 12 times as many as Hong Kong or Europe.
As a result, these other places still have the chance to keep their recent outbreaks from turning into something worse. Hong Kong has prohibited restaurant dining, limited public gatherings to two people and required mask-wearing in public at all times. Belgium is limiting people’s social contacts outside their family to the same five people over the next four weeks.
Much of the U.S. is responding less aggressively, even though its outbreak is more severe. Until that changes, many parts of the U.S. reopening — schools, pro sports and more — are likely to suffer setbacks, epidemiologists say.
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