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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7294 on: July 26, 2020, 11:48:06 PM »
They won't say for sure but based on the timeline I'm pretty sure it happened at church.
Ironic.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7295 on: July 27, 2020, 12:56:38 AM »
https://cbs12.com/amp/news/local/i-team-deaths-incorrectly-attributed-to-covid-19-in-palm-beach-county

A 60-year-old man who died from a gun shot wound to the head. A 90-year-old man who fell and died from complications of a hip fracture. A 77-year-old woman who died of Parkinson's disease. 

These are some of the deaths in Palm Beach County recently, and incorrectly, attributed to COVID-19 in medical examiner records. 

The CBS12 News I-Team uncovered several examples in Medical Examiner reports of people counted as a COVID death who did not die of COVID. 


We requested a list of all COVID-19 deaths in Palm Beach County from the Medical Examiner's office and received a spread sheet of 581 cases. 

Each person on the spreadsheet is someone who tested positive for COVID-19. In each case line, the person's cause of death and contributing causes of death are listed, if there are any. 


The I-Team found eight cases in which a person was counted as a COVID death, but did not have COVID listed as a cause of contributing cause of death. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7296 on: July 27, 2020, 01:03:54 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7297 on: July 27, 2020, 01:09:40 AM »



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7298 on: July 27, 2020, 07:03:20 AM »
A while back, I saw the overall death count for that month in 2020 as compared with 2019 2018 etc., and it was markedly higher, which led me to think we're undercounting COVID deaths, by 10,000 or so, at the time.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7299 on: July 27, 2020, 07:49:08 AM »
https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus/covid-doesnt-care-about-your-age-georgias-virus-deaths-soar/63LQCR3QG5CCBEAISJ5XCLQHMM/

Headline claims COVID doesn't care about your age and then explains that a very low percentage of deaths is those under 50.  So, I check the paper's own reporting about deaths and the trend appears to be down, not up.

https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-georgia-covid-dashboard/jvoLBozRtBSVSNQDDAuZxH/

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7300 on: July 27, 2020, 08:22:55 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7301 on: July 27, 2020, 08:28:34 AM »
I mentioned that my kid in Texas, 32, was quite discomfited by it, did not seek medical attention nor was counted.  He said shortness of breath was the most bothersome symptom.  He was breathing hard just getting up and walking across the room.

At that time, it was difficult to get take out food from local restaurants delivered, and he has a dog to be walked.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7302 on: July 27, 2020, 08:28:53 AM »
Why is that ironic?
It's obvious.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7303 on: July 27, 2020, 08:34:49 AM »
I mentioned that my kid in Texas, 32, was quite discomfited by it, did not seek medical attention nor was counted.  He said shortness of breath was the most bothersome symptom.  He was breathing hard just getting up and walking across the room.

At that time, it was difficult to get take out food from local restaurants delivered, and he has a dog to be walked.


Yeah so far their symptoms don't seem to involve the shortness of breath, or really even much coughing.  Fatigue, nausea, diarrhea, loss of appetite, that's what they're battling so far.  Their likely exposure was over 14 days ago now, and things don't seem to be getting any worse, so I'm hopeful they won't face any of the breathing/pneumonia type issues.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7304 on: July 27, 2020, 08:43:18 AM »
Yeah so far their symptoms don't seem to involve the shortness of breath, or really even much coughing.  Fatigue, nausea, diarrhea, loss of appetite, that's what they're battling so far.  Their likely exposure was over 14 days ago now, and things don't seem to be getting any worse, so I'm hopeful they won't face any of the breathing/pneumonia type issues.
did you or your wife come in contact with them before the test

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7305 on: July 27, 2020, 08:45:49 AM »
Why is that ironic?
no more ironic then folks going to the hospital for something else and catching it there

even churches need to take precautions 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7306 on: July 27, 2020, 09:02:42 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7307 on: July 27, 2020, 09:26:01 AM »
https://cbs12.com/amp/news/local/i-team-deaths-incorrectly-attributed-to-covid-19-in-palm-beach-county

A 60-year-old man who died from a gun shot wound to the head. A 90-year-old man who fell and died from complications of a hip fracture. A 77-year-old woman who died of Parkinson's disease.

These are some of the deaths in Palm Beach County recently, and incorrectly, attributed to COVID-19 in medical examiner records.

The CBS12 News I-Team uncovered several examples in Medical Examiner reports of people counted as a COVID death who did not die of COVID.


We requested a list of all COVID-19 deaths in Palm Beach County from the Medical Examiner's office and received a spread sheet of 581 cases.

Each person on the spreadsheet is someone who tested positive for COVID-19. In each case line, the person's cause of death and contributing causes of death are listed, if there are any.


The I-Team found eight cases in which a person was counted as a COVID death, but did not have COVID listed as a cause of contributing cause of death.


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Ok, so if COVID is not listed as the cause of death OR a contributing cause of death, on the death certificate, then it won't be counted as a cause of death in official CDC numbers.

Sounds like there are two options...
  • These 8 cases (1.4% of the total) were reported incorrectly and it'll get corrected later in official numbers.
  • These 8 cases were never reported as COVID deaths and the spreadsheet was in error.

But either way it's barely over 1% of the number. That's not a horrible error rate, all things considered.


 

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