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Big Beef Tacosupreme

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6552 on: July 10, 2020, 11:47:52 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 09, 2020, 11:07:06 PM
Let me add, when you run a Very large city in a very liberal way by allowing it to be a sanctuary city where people are living on top of each other, and then on top of that you are warned in writing of the urgent need to be prepared for a pandemic and you blatantly disregard that and spend the money needed on other things. What do you expect is going to happen? You can trace that exact situation to the highest number of deaths In this entire fiasco. And then when you send sick people to live in nursing homes and you caused thousands of more days but the press treat you like God well there you have it.

Then you spend months chastising people for not isolating and doing weird things like going to church. Then win millions of people take to the streets you don’t chastise them you blatantly encourage it. Well guess what many young people in this country don’t follow any individual political ideology and they get a lot of their news and influence from the media. And when the media basically send you the strongest message yet but it’s OK to get back out there do you not think there’s going to be spikes after that.  Then you spend months chastising people for not isolating and doing weird things like going to church. Then when millions of people take to the streets you don’t chastise them you blatantly encourage it. Well guess what many young people in this country don’t follow any individual political ideology and they get a lot of their news and influence from the media. And when the media basically send you the strongest message yet but it’s OK to get back out there do you not think there’s going to be spikes after that.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Trump admin has done a terrible job here.  So have other people at all levels.  Spread the blame around, don't shift it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6553 on: July 10, 2020, 11:51:01 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 11:43:38 AM
no problem


lets talk about the elevated Texas death count
ok, if we follow the data trends, Texas should have a number in the 70s.  Then they should post in 70s on Sat, 60s on Sunday, and back over 100 on Monday.  This continues the uphill trend, and is actually accelerating faster than I projected.

Remember, you said you doubted Texas would hit 100 deaths per day, and I said we would revisit on 7/20?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6554 on: July 10, 2020, 11:51:59 AM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on July 10, 2020, 11:47:52 AM
Two wrongs don't make a right.

Trump admin has done a terrible job here.  So have other people at all levels.  Spread the blame around, don't shift it.
its too bad we didnt have you calling the shots since you have all the answers and know all
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6555 on: July 10, 2020, 11:52:53 AM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on July 10, 2020, 11:51:01 AM
ok, if we follow the data trends, Texas should have a number in the 70s.  Then they should post in 70s on Sat, 60s on Sunday, and back over 100 on Monday.  This continues the uphill trend, and is actually accelerating faster than I projected.

Remember, you said you doubted Texas would hit 100 deaths per day, and I said we would revisit on 7/20?
yes thanks for reminding me
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6556 on: July 10, 2020, 11:54:01 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 09:35:52 AM
Texas had another high case day with deaths over 100 again.

One of the leading counties of both cases and deaths is from Hidalgo county which is way down south Texas at McAllen near the Mexican boarder where its high in Hispanics

Wondering how much if any is coming in from Mexico

Oh well it will calm down eventually


Ironically, Mexico has closed the borders. I don't think we can blame them for this one.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6557 on: July 10, 2020, 11:57:06 AM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on July 10, 2020, 11:54:01 AM
Ironically, Mexico has closed the borders. I don't think we can blame them for this one.
In Arizona, yes.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6558 on: July 10, 2020, 11:57:58 AM »
Just pointing out that one of our hot spots is right by the Mexican border and wondering whats causing it thats all

Texas still has a very low death to positive case count even with the elevated case count so Im hoping this will turn around
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6559 on: July 10, 2020, 11:59:42 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 11:51:59 AM
its too bad we didnt have you calling the shots since you have all the answers and know all
I don't have any answers, but it does bother me when people treat politics like a sports team.  Objectively, the USA has failed at nearly every level with this thing.

Trump certainly deserves some serious criticism here.  It bothers me when people let their allegiances prevent them from seeing the truth.

Let's put it another way:  If Obama was in office under this clusterF*, you'd be calling for his head, and you know you would.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6560 on: July 10, 2020, 12:00:22 PM »
I dont think Mexico has closed its border to migrant workers or commerce
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6561 on: July 10, 2020, 12:00:51 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 11:02:10 AM
These individuals did not come here from china directly

The purpose was to ban incoming from China
And He excluded Hong Kong and Macau, for some reason. Which is where the bulk of those travelers came from, according to the Fox story. 

And where there were existing cases of COVID on Feb 2, that were traced back to Wuhan:

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Trump’s travel ban on China went into full effect on Feb. 2, at which time 15 people had already been confirmed with coronavirus in Hong Kong and seven people in Macau.
The cases from Macau were later linked directly to Wuhan, the origin of the outbreak.
How many of those ~8K who came through Hong Kong or Macau were flying from mainland China into those airports and then catching flights directly to the US, without enough time spent quarantined in Hong Kong or Macau to make sure they weren't already infected? 

In the end, I'm not going to blame those people for spreading the virus. However, I'm also not going to act like He saved us. Especially since He spent the next two months downplaying it like it was just going to magically disappear. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6562 on: July 10, 2020, 12:02:36 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on July 10, 2020, 11:59:42 AM
I don't have any answers, but it does bother me when people treat politics like a sports team.  Objectively, the USA has failed at nearly every level with this thing.

Trump certainly deserves some serious criticism here.  It bothers me when people let their allegiances prevent them from seeing the truth.

Let's put it another way:  If Obama was in office under this clusterF*, you'd be calling for his head, and you know you would.
Trump has allowed the states to call their own shots so most of any blame goes to the states not the Federal Gov
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6563 on: July 10, 2020, 12:06:24 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 11:51:59 AM
its too bad we didnt have you calling the shots since you have all the answers and know all
If it were me, I'd still have screwed it up. Everyone screwed it up. 

Graded on the curve, I'll bet I'd have done better than Him. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6564 on: July 10, 2020, 12:11:37 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 12:02:36 PM
Trump has allowed the states to call their own shots so most of any blame goes to the states not the Federal Gov
And He's consistently undermined the states calling their own shots. Remember how He cheered on all the protesters who were against states closing with His "Liberate" tweets? Remember how He wanted all the churches open by Easter? It was His quote of not letting the cure be worse than the disease. Even now He is telling schools to reopen [which I personally agree with BTW] in the fall at full capacity. 

You can't claim He left everything to the states when He then tried to tell them what to do, and it was in direct opposition to what they were doing. 

He has consistently downplayed the virus which has made it harder for states to enforce any restrictions or guidelines that might help. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6565 on: July 10, 2020, 12:17:18 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on July 10, 2020, 11:59:42 AM
I don't have any answers, but it does bother me when people treat politics like a sports team.  Objectively, the USA has failed at nearly every level with this thing.

Trump certainly deserves some serious criticism here.  It bothers me when people let their allegiances prevent them from seeing the truth.

Let's put it another way:  If Obama was in office under this clusterF*, you'd be calling for his head, and you know you would.
as I have said all along POTUS is an idiot.  

Your the first person to fess up to the fact that there is plenty of blame to go around     Allegiances go both ways.  

I have NONE.  Which is why it is so easy to see how totally skewed the media is.  
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