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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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FearlessF

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6510 on: July 09, 2020, 04:39:01 PM »
Tell me he's smart.  Tell me how mindful he is.  Tell us all how well he's managed this thing.

Correct me!
no one is going to tell you this

we're all aware of who he is

we don't need to be told over and over and over and over again by you
this won't change anything

nothing will change until after November if you're lucky
if you're unlucky, you can put up with it another 4 years
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6511 on: July 09, 2020, 04:39:30 PM »
Tell me he's smart.  Tell me how mindful he is.  Tell us all how well he's managed this thing.

Correct me!
Tell us in another thread.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6512 on: July 09, 2020, 04:55:51 PM »
don't tell us at all

tell your friends on Facebook
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6513 on: July 09, 2020, 04:55:58 PM »
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6514 on: July 09, 2020, 05:06:24 PM »
the poop will hit the fan if that happens cause I dont think the citizens will accept that well
What really pisses me the F off is that I don't think it's businesses being open that's the problem. It's people mingling A LOT with people outside their own household -- without masks or social distancing.

I honestly don't think that going to the grocery store (shoppers masked, workers masked) getting a haircut (stylist/patron masked), getting nails done (provider/patron masked), eating at a restaurant (server masked, social distancing enforced, being there ONLY with your own household) are particularly dangerous. 

It's the people who do things like have big 4th of July parties with all their friends and family that are the problem, which also happen to be the thing that it's *really* hard to police. I had to go to Costco last week, went Thursday midday, and the place was mobbed, with people buying for the holiday. The wife went to the grocery story last Friday, and saw people with carts loaded full of stuff that couldn't be related to anything other than a party. You can police businesses. You can't police jackasses unless their neighbors turn them in, and I don't think that's going to happen. 

So the individuals and businesses that are trying to engage in basic commerce and doing so responsibly will be screwed, while the real problem will continue doing what they're doing.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6515 on: July 09, 2020, 05:12:33 PM »
Objectively, the president couldn't be doing worse on this.  His name doesn't matter, nor does either party.  Threatening schools with pulling their funding if they don't ACT RESPONSIBLY is, again, indefensible. 
Without getting into politics, what I really find rich is that he was tweeting a mere three days ago about how deaths are down, and that the only reason we have so many cases is because of testing. 

Literally the day before deaths exploded, he was the champion for deaths being down. And now we're well on our way to our third straight day of deaths higher than we've seen in several weeks.

How does he spin that? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6516 on: July 09, 2020, 05:14:45 PM »
That's fine for Vermont, but not AZ.
Again, there's little evidence, at least so far, that school closings do much if anything to stop the spread. 

Maybe the evidence is incomplete. But you claim to follow the evidence and science, so it seems, well, ideological to see you ignore or throw out any evidence which doesn't fit your priors...

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6517 on: July 09, 2020, 05:21:21 PM »
the citizens in Cali will accept it much better than the citizens in Texas
No, we won't. California is full of selfish assholes. People are tired of COVID. They just want to go back to normal.
that may be but I assume they still have a pair although that may be dreaming
It's not balls. It's selfishness and venality. It's putting themselves over everyone else (despite their protestations and virtue signaling otherwise). Where the rubber meets the road, it's "I'm gonna do what the f I want."

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6518 on: July 09, 2020, 05:24:00 PM »
What really pisses me the F off is that I don't think it's businesses being open that's the problem. It's people mingling A LOT with people outside their own household -- without masks or social distancing.


this is why I was asking about wearing of masks as being the silver bullet to get past this thing.  Obviously, many more folks are wearing masks, or being asked to wear masks, or being forced to wear masks.

if so many more people are wearing masks, and masks are really working, then cases and other numbers should start to drop.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6519 on: July 09, 2020, 05:51:25 PM »
Tell me he's smart.  Tell me how mindful he is.  Tell us all how well he's managed this thing.

Correct me!
Quit slurping XiNN.  

and show me how you can give passing grades to ANYONE on this.  you act like it was one persons role 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6520 on: July 09, 2020, 05:53:26 PM »
this is why I was asking about wearing of masks as being the silver bullet to get past this thing.  Obviously, many more folks are wearing masks, or being asked to wear masks, or being forced to wear masks.

if so many more people are wearing masks, and masks are really working, then cases and other numbers should start to drop.
I've been harping on this. People need to go out in public. You can't stay cooped up forever. Sometimes it's critical commerce that has to occur. Sometimes it's less critical.

But if the regulation says you need to wear a mask in public and you have 25 people over for a 4th of July party, you're not in "public". And heck, they're just your family and friends. So come on, why would anyone wear a mask there? 

But that's the problem.

  • If you're having a bunch of people not from your household together on private property and not wearing masks, it has potential to cause significant spread. 
  • If you're meeting people from outside your own household in a place where masks aren't required--say, at a single table in a restaurant--it has potential to cause significant spread. 

If people *barely* do this, it's not that big of a deal. I.e. if a group of 4-5 housewives are mostly doing their best to engage in social distancing and stay home most of the time, and they meet for brunch once a month? Not that big of a deal. Best practice? No, but not very likely to be a "superspreader" type event.

If people... My jackass neighbors, for example... Have guests over to their house 3-4 nights a week (not the same guests as far as we can tell) and don't social distance or wear masks? Big fucking deal. Especially since I doubt those guests are social distancing at all. 

People don't seem to understand that you're supposed to isolate as much as possible. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6521 on: July 09, 2020, 05:56:12 PM »
Quit slurping XiNN. 

and show me how you can give passing grades to ANYONE on this.  you act like it was one persons role

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I had a PHYS 261 exam at Purdue where I scored a 59, and with the curve, that was an A.

You grade Him on a curve, it's still an F.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6522 on: July 09, 2020, 08:38:08 PM »
I had a PHYS 261 exam at Purdue where I scored a 59, and with the curve, that was an A.

You grade Him on a curve, it's still an F.
It's tough to overstate what a disaster our federal leadership has been. There's no consistent message, there's no consistent data. The story is the same from governors, schools, hospitals, and everyone else. "Where the fuck is the federal government?"

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6523 on: July 09, 2020, 08:53:52 PM »
I had a PHYS 261 exam at Purdue where I scored a 59, and with the curve, that was an A.

You grade Him on a curve, it's still an F.
On a curve.  I hate the bastard, but when I compare him to others in the state  and federal government- my grade for him might go up.

i guess it comes down to interpretation of what your view of what role does the federal government have responsibility for, including members of both houses and their appointed leaders, and what the role of the “united” states and their elected  leaders are. 
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