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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6356 on: July 06, 2020, 12:26:53 AM »
Yes, always hedging, so as to not be held accountable by anything you post.
How did I hedge

still waiting

youre not one of those guys thats all blow and no go are ya

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6357 on: July 06, 2020, 01:39:13 AM »
I cited one and bwarb cited one, both recent.  If you're just going to ignore our posts, stop goading me.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6358 on: July 06, 2020, 02:15:40 AM »
I cited one and bwarb cited one, both recent.  If you're just going to ignore our posts, stop goading me.
you did?


I missed it

what was it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6359 on: July 06, 2020, 06:47:11 AM »
I am not even going to pretend to have “ the answers here. 

Being in Florida as the number of cases rises exponentially absolutely scares me and absolutely concerns me. 

Every where I go- people are in masks- but the spread has largely avoided where I am.  How long can that hold true?

I am flying out of Palm Beach to Detroit Friday to go back to Michigan for an out door wedding/ and to see my two daughters who I have not seen since Feb. 

All along my instincts have said that the initial goal of not overwhelming the hospitals was the right thing- and finding the balance between the economic catastrophe and the medical catastrophe was the difficult but correct high wire act.  Many said it is just a matter of time before a high % of us will get it- and the best thing we could do was protect those most susceptible. 

So, as we sit here today the fact that so many new cases are younger people who seem to be handling it better, and with few exceptions the medical system is not overwhelmed - that part gives me hope bordering on optimism. And while many businesses around me have closed forever ( my cleaners and hair cutting place for example) most others are hanging in there and some are even doing well.

Other than being as vigilant as I can, I don’t know what if anything I would change. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6360 on: July 06, 2020, 07:12:58 AM »
This is in Michigan but a scene that could have been anywhere USA this weekend     Ugghh
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6361 on: July 06, 2020, 08:58:31 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6362 on: July 06, 2020, 09:04:51 AM »
Link for the lazy?  I have read The opposite. This virus doesn’t mutate very fast.
Hard to link and actual paper copy, and I don't remember their titles.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6363 on: July 06, 2020, 09:10:13 AM »
I have seen papers saying it has mutated, and others claiming it isn't mutating.  I've seen work that hydroxychloroquine works, and others saying it doesn't.

I liken this to the three blind men describing an elephant.

This is another example where science in the public domain often gets misunderstood and overly hyped and mischaracterized by the media and politicians.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6364 on: July 06, 2020, 09:17:04 AM »
It's good to sift and winnow. It's also good to know people who know something.

The level of seriousness in cases is coming down. First hand knowledge.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6365 on: July 06, 2020, 09:43:17 AM »
Yeah, we THINK because it is the younger folks getting it of course.  It still can be a difficult sickness.

Anyway, the horse has left the barn.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6366 on: July 06, 2020, 10:05:23 AM »
The dock Doc put the average age in his cases at 29. He blames the protests and the bars being open.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6367 on: July 06, 2020, 10:47:57 AM »
It's good to sift and winnow. It's also good to know people who know something.

The level of seriousness in cases is coming down. First hand knowledge.
Yeah, we THINK because it is the younger folks getting it of course.  It still can be a difficult sickness.

Anyway, the horse has left the barn.
I also think that with the much higher knowledge about COVID-19 symptoms, and the much better test availability, we're probably catching a lot of cases sooner, before they've developed into serious complications. 

In addition, a lot of tests are due to contact tracing, which will catch mild or asymptomatic cases that would never have resulted in a test before, so it looks like the severity comes down as a product of increased numbers. 

That said, in many of the areas that are seeing spiking case numbers, we're starting to see the results in hospitalizations and ICU usage. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6368 on: July 06, 2020, 10:52:09 AM »
There is evidence from the standpoint of a very low death count

I did not say it was definite only a good possibility
This is what you said:


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I mentioned that as a possibility as to one reason deaths are so low relative to the latest surge and everybody said that just couldnt be


Nobody said "that couldn't be", which is where this issue is coming from. You are misrepresenting our position. 

Maybe that was just intended as hyperbole, but as one of the people who basically is waiting for evidence, i.e. researchers sequencing the genome of the virus as it spreads and can detect mutation, I take umbrage to the idea that I've said "that just couldn't be". I've said no such thing. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6369 on: July 06, 2020, 11:00:46 AM »
This is what you said:



Nobody said "that couldn't be", which is where this issue is coming from. You are misrepresenting our position.

Maybe that was just intended as hyperbole, but as one of the people who basically is waiting for evidence, i.e. researchers sequencing the genome of the virus as it spreads and can detect mutation, I take umbrage to the idea that I've said "that just couldn't be". I've said no such thing.
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