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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5838 on: June 25, 2020, 09:06:20 AM »
Probably the same people who don't have their kids vaccinated for MMR.
My point is we could be talking about a subsection of the population that is one percent, or so, really a small minority.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5839 on: June 25, 2020, 09:08:18 AM »
Who is "them" and what percentage say this?
Specifically I'm talking about the people who refuse to wear masks. Not sure what percentage of them would refuse a vaccine but they seem to overlap. I did see a poll that 1 in 5 people would refuse the vaccine.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5840 on: June 25, 2020, 09:15:06 AM »
There's no such thing as a "second wave" guys.  It plateaued for a bit, we opened up, and it's catching fire.  Say your goodbyes to grandma. 

Our superintendent and school board just discussed our plan for this coming school year.  What's certain is that grandmas are going to die from school being open.  Lots of 'em.  What's also certain, and it will be far, far fewer, but some kids are going to die, too. 

Anybody think we'd have opened up if 60% of deaths from Covid-19 were kids instead of the elderly?  What would have been the plan then?  Same urgency to order a pizza?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5841 on: June 25, 2020, 09:18:01 AM »
Specifically I'm talking about the people who refuse to wear masks. Not sure what percentage of them would refuse a vaccine but they seem to overlap. I did see a poll that 1 in 5 people would refuse the vaccine.
It's got nothing to do with masks. That's just XiNN bulljive.

It's about religion.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5842 on: June 25, 2020, 09:22:27 AM »
There's no such thing as a "second wave" guys.  It plateaued for a bit, we opened up, and it's catching fire.  Say your goodbyes to grandma. 

Our superintendent and school board just discussed our plan for this coming school year.  What's certain is that grandmas are going to die from school being open.  Lots of 'em.  What's also certain, and it will be far, far fewer, but some kids are going to die, too. 

Anybody think we'd have opened up if 60% of deaths from Covid-19 were kids instead of the elderly?  What would have been the plan then?  Same urgency to order a pizza?
No. The death of an 8 year old is generally looked upon as more of a tragedy than the death of an 80 year old.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5843 on: June 25, 2020, 09:25:47 AM »
It's got nothing to do with masks. That's just XiNN bulljive.

It's about religion.
Huh?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5844 on: June 25, 2020, 09:26:53 AM »
When polls get "down into the weeds" and show a result for 5% of the people or 10%, it really is chaff.  About that percentage in polls just answer randomly, or as a joke, they just don't care.  We used to "poll" people and insert a question like "Would you rather have $5 for completing this poll or $25?" and 10% would say $5.  These were written questionnaires, so a bit different.

You also have 5% or so who say what they think you want to hear if done verbally as in a focus group interview.

If 20% of people will refuse to take a free vaccine, well, so be it.  I'd be surprised if the figure is really that high in the longer run, especially if this thing goes ballistic.

Now I need to go sell some more stock.  Gonna be a rough few months I suspect.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5845 on: June 25, 2020, 09:27:50 AM »
Huh?
Vaccine refusals are rooted in basically two things. Religion is the biggest one, but some fear the safety of a vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5846 on: June 25, 2020, 09:29:37 AM »
Vaccine refusals are rooted in basically two things. Religion is the biggest one, but some fear the safety of a vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5847 on: June 25, 2020, 09:31:00 AM »
When polls get "down into the weeds" and show a result for 5% of the people or 10%, it really is chaff.  About that percentage in polls just answer randomly, or as a joke, they just don't care.  We used to "poll" people and insert a question like "Would you rather have $5 for completing this poll or $25?" and 10% would say $5.  These were written questionnaires, so a bit different.

You also have 5% or so who say what they think you want to hear if done verbally as in a focus group interview.

If 20% of people will refuse to take a free vaccine, well, so be it.  I'd be surprised if the figure is really that high in the longer run, especially if this thing goes ballistic.

Now I need to go sell some more stock.  Gonna be a rough few months I suspect.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5848 on: June 25, 2020, 09:35:53 AM »
We had more deaths yesterday than last Tuesday . We had more today than last Wednesday. It's too early to call, but I fear an inflection point.
As of yesterday deaths has declined for nine weeks in a row

Yes I know deaths is a trailing indicator so this trend might change
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5849 on: June 25, 2020, 09:37:23 AM »
As of yesterday deaths has declined for nine weeks in a row

Yes I know deaths is a trailing indicator so this trend might change
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5850 on: June 25, 2020, 09:39:35 AM »
Nationally or in Texas, 320?
Nationally

Texas has a very low death rate as only nine states have a lower one
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5851 on: June 25, 2020, 09:44:16 AM »
I still dont think the huge increase in cases will translate into proportionate deaths

I think a combination of a large increase in testing and the average age of the current positive testers 

is the reason I think this

Hospitalizations in Texas is way up so Im a little concerned about that
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