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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5656 on: June 22, 2020, 11:33:22 AM »
and what will all this testing accomplish?

back in March when there wasn't nearly enough tests to meet demand, I was told if we had enough tests we would win this battle.  Testing was the key to flattening the curve.

Well, it seems there are ample tests and the curve seems to be on an uptick most places
Here’s the thing, the coronavirus has become a fact a life. We aren’t going to beat this thing, it isn’t going to just go away. It’s here forever. We have to deal with and stop being a bunch of baby ass pussies and get on with normal life. 

It’ll likely be a part of human life forever. And the more it evolves and changes chances are it gets milder and milder. Typically when virus like this mutates it’s effects become weaker but more easily to spread. Makes sense. It’s evolving and adapting to ensure it’s survival. 

But the good news is it’s not as deadly to people as everyone in the media made it out to be, it’s a relatively mild disease that pretty much only kills old people and the immune-compromised. The vast majority of deaths in the US are people 85+. That demographic alone accounts for 31+% of all deaths. Then the 75-84 age bracket makes up 27.3% of all deaths. So basically 59% of all deaths are people 75+. Then the age bracket of 65-74 makes up 21.3% of all deaths in US. So 80% of all deaths are people 65 and older. And remember, 44% of all deaths in US were in nursing homes. The most socially isolated people in the f**ng country. 

If you’re 0-54 years old and healthy, your risk of dying from this is basically non-exstinent.

And the people that are 55-64 that are dying from this are the people in that unhealthy fat f***ks in that age group that are obese as shit and have other diseases like diabetes and heart disease.

This should be a wake up call for all people in this country to lose weight, eat healthy, regularly exercise, take vitamins and supplements, and get 7-8 hrs of sleep every night. You know, take care of yourself. 

And it should also be an indictment on nursing homes and people living too long. I’m sorry, I don’t want to live to 90 and drooling all over myself and shitting in diapers. I’d rather be dead. People are living too long in this country and around the world. There’s only so many natural resources to go around. Our overpopulation is destroying this planet. We need a good pandemic or two to wipe out those living too long and maybe another one that hits the 3rd world and countries like India and China and causes them to go sterile because those motherf***krs are overpopulating the earth and destroying this planet. Won’t be a human species left if we keep this shit up.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5657 on: June 22, 2020, 11:37:07 AM »
When this started, we didn't have enough tests to find the infected individuals and perform contact tracing to test anyone we knew they came in contact with. That is a very important aspect of slowing the spread. That's how places like South Korea were able to manage it.

Unfortunately I believe our infection rate is too high at this point for contact tracing to do all that much good, particularly as we've reopened. However as utee's pointed out, when you at least have a known point of potential spread (his hair stylist) who has a client list of known patrons, you can contact trace. Right now we're trying to figure out if we're in the same boat--one of the doctor's at my wife's practice might have exposure due to a doctor she shares an office with at her hospital position who tested positive, and is in quarantine. If she likewise shows symptoms or tests positive, my wife will need to get tested, and then likely so would I, even though we don't think my wife came into close enough contact with the doctor to get it.


That said, I don't think even testing / contact tracing will completely stop the spread. South Korea has been seeing an uptick in new cases ever since they started reopening. Hopefully they'll at least be able to keep it minimal and not allow it to explode.

I honestly don't believe it matters.  With new increases in cases in places like South Korea and Germany, we have plenty of data that you can almost completely squash it, but the moment you start reopening, the spread resumes.  It's just too infectious.

Wear a mask, maintain as much distance as you can, and get on with your life.  This is where we are now.  The highest at-risk should stay completely clear of everyone, if they want to avoid the risk.  Otherwise, they're grown adults and can accept the risk if they'd prefer not to live in seclusion.  My parents, and my in-laws, are done with seclusion.  They're wearing masks, which my dad calls spit-catchers, and they're getting back out and about.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5658 on: June 22, 2020, 11:48:52 AM »
Looking at Florida today, 60 percent of the cases are in 5 counties. Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, Orange and Hillsborough.

My zip code has 13 cases, and my neighborhood still has none.

In Illinois today, 64 percent of the cases are in ONE county - Crook.

My zip code has 231 cases.
Same where I am in Florida.  Treasure Coast about 30 miles north of Palm Beach.  
I read that the average age of the new cases is between 37-41 years old. I wonder what, if anything that says??

here in my area- people are out and about in droves- but we are almost all wearing masks and distancing.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5659 on: June 22, 2020, 11:55:40 AM »
Same where I am in Florida.  Treasure Coast about 30 miles north of Palm Beach. 
I read that the average age of the new cases is between 37-41 years old. I wonder what, if anything that says??

here in my area- people are out and about in droves- but we are almost all wearing masks and distancing. 
How many of those cases are severe? 

Its way easier to get tested, there are more tests and more places to get tested than ever before- and I know alooooot more people being tested just because they have a fever or cough now. My sister for example went and got tested just because she had a fever. Came back negative. 

So a lot more people are getting tested now than ever- which is great- which means there will be more and more positive tests- but how many of those positive tests are actually severe? If it’s in that 37-41 age group- my guess is very few. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5660 on: June 22, 2020, 12:05:30 PM »
so, many more are being tested, many more are quarantining themselves and others they've been in contact with because of positive tests

at the same time many more folks are out and about.

with a positive test or negative test or w/o a test you can easily quarantine or wear a mask or whatever you think is prudent 

seems to me that with or w/o tests, with or w/o masks, this thing is going to run it's course w/o a vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5661 on: June 22, 2020, 12:07:30 PM »
How many of those cases are severe?

Its way easier to get tested, there are more tests and more places to get tested than ever before- and I know alooooot more people being tested just because they have a fever or cough now. My sister for example went and got tested just because she had a fever. Came back negative.

So a lot more people are getting tested now than ever- which is great- which means there will be more and more positive tests- but how many of those positive tests are actually severe? If it’s in that 37-41 age group- my guess is very few.
I don't know that it matters, because they can still spread it around to those who might be at more risk.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5662 on: June 22, 2020, 12:07:42 PM »
In other news, I just walked down to CVS and got the first dose of shingles vaccine, get the second in 2-6 months.  I feel fine so far.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5663 on: June 22, 2020, 12:17:34 PM »
Looking at Florida today, 60 percent of the cases are in 5 counties. Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, Orange and Hillsborough.

My zip code has 13 cases, and my neighborhood still has none.

Lol, well those are some pretty populated counties...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5664 on: June 22, 2020, 12:18:44 PM »
seems to me that with or w/o tests, with or w/o masks, this thing is going to run it's course w/o a vaccine.
yep. and the vaccine isn't coming any time soon.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5665 on: June 22, 2020, 12:18:57 PM »
and what will all this testing accomplish?

back in March when there wasn't nearly enough tests to meet demand, I was told if we had enough tests we would win this battle.  Testing was the key to flattening the curve.

Well, it seems there are ample tests and the curve seems to be on an uptick most places
I'll never understand this mode of thinking.

If nothing else, MORE DATA IS BETTER THAN LESS DATA.  Can we just please agree on that?  How is this even a debate?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5666 on: June 22, 2020, 12:20:18 PM »
yep. and the vaccine isn't coming any time soon.
Not that it was ever a possibility...


I'm tired of half the country flogging the scientific community with a buggy whip and then throwing their hands up once a miracle doesn't happen.  Ignorant idiots.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5667 on: June 22, 2020, 12:21:26 PM »
 The lockdown about killed us by itself, which was China's intention for us and Europe. We cannot go on lockdown again, so people need to be smart.
Jesus F-ing Christ.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5668 on: June 22, 2020, 12:27:21 PM »
I'll never understand this mode of thinking.

If nothing else, MORE DATA IS BETTER THAN LESS DATA.  Can we just please agree on that?  How is this even a debate?
I can certainly agree that more data is better than less data


we have FAR more data today then we did in March

it doesn't seem to be of much help
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5669 on: June 22, 2020, 12:28:57 PM »
SIOUX CITY -- The number of Woodbury County patients who have recovered from COVID-19 is continuing to outpace the county's newly reported infections.

During the last week, 174 people have recovered from the virus in the county, for a total of 2,582 recoveries to date, according to the Siouxland District Health Department. During that same time frame, only 43 people tested positive for the virus -- meaning that the number of infected individuals declined by 131.

Of the 3,066 people in the county who have tested positive for the virus in Woodbury County since March, only about 442 of them are currently dealing with an active virus, after taking the county's 42 deaths into account.


The criteria for recovery from the virus, as established by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, include not having had a fever for the past 72 hours (without the use of fever-alleviating medication), while other symptoms, like cough or shortness of breath, also improve. All this must happen no less than 10 days since symptoms first appeared.

Statewide, most of Iowa's known COVID-19-positive individuals have recovered from their infections. Of the 25,957 people who have tested positive for the virus since March, 16,058 are recovered, while 685 have died, according to IDPH data.

Nebraska's Department of Health and Human Services has reported a total of 17,810 cases as of Sunday evening. Of these, 11,776 are considered recovered, while 244 have died. Douglas County (the Omaha area) has represented the majority of the state's new infections reported in the past two weeks.
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