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847badgerfan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5628 on: June 21, 2020, 04:09:56 PM »
I didn't get the swab test, because my wife did on Tuesday and she was negative. I'll do that one in a few weeks, just to see.

She was resulted within 24 hours on hers.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5629 on: June 21, 2020, 04:43:50 PM »
And the less than stellar reliability of CV testing is a reminder of why Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos is one of the worst ethical scandals of our times.  Her criminal trial was pushed to October due to CV.   

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5630 on: June 21, 2020, 05:42:24 PM »
I wonder if they'll let me get tested twice.  If a false result is 50/50, then I can at least get it to 75/25 if I get tested twice and the outcomes match.  

My plan is to get tested and only travel to FL/GA if I've already had it.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5631 on: June 21, 2020, 11:58:42 PM »
I'm not sure if I should visit my family in FL/GA.  I'm sure I'd be fine, but I don't want to get my dad sick or something.  I know the odds are against it, but the "what if" aspect keeps me sitting on the fence.
I am 63. My folks are 86 and 87, and in good health. I canceled my mid-April flight to Tucson. They went from wanting to see me to wanting to cut back on visitors, especially visitors who would be overnight at their residence after flying on connecting flights with 300 other passengers. I was going to wear surgical masks before masks were being commonly worn.

The idea of flying on a plane is troubling me, but if a face shield and face mask are worn, and you are tested before you fly, you mostly eliminate yourself as having the virus, and eliminate nearly every conceivable mode of transmission, especially if your mask is an N95 mask. But the combination of surgical mask and face shield would be very protective.

I am thinking about visiting my folks when my daughter starts her internship in Tucson in January, while considering how to protect everyone.

Not every Republican eschews recommendations. I talked to my brother a few days ago, and he was just livid about the lack of mask adherents in Tucson. He said it was about 25%, with cases spiking. He buys the groceries for my parents and he is getting curbside pickup without going into stores. But then he works with the public, too. He said the Mayor was imposing a mandatory mask policy, but I read tonight that the Pinal County Sheriff will not enforce it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5632 on: June 22, 2020, 12:02:18 AM »
If folks keep their masks in place, it would help.  I just can't see how the players are going to stay uninfectious.
I don't see how players will not be infected, either. Many of the athletes are testing positive already. How many is too many?

I read an article on www.hawkcentral.com tonight in which Bob Bowlsby, Big 12 Commissioner, and others are saying it is entirely possible that the Iowa - Iowa State game could be played 2x in 2020 if a regularly scheduled team is unavailable for them to play. The situation is fluid.
I think it is entirely possible they won't play at all.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5633 on: June 22, 2020, 07:06:35 AM »
I presume any player who tests positive will not be allowed to be anywhere near any other players.  I presume many players on every team will test positive at some point.

The number of new cases in GA yesterday dropped back to 892 from 1800, which was a one day spike (I hope).

If you see a thousand new cases a day in a population of roughly 10 million, that isn't a high percentage of course, 1 in 10,000, but every day....

In GA the rates are high in some rural counties, not so high here in ATL.

There is a lot about this I don't understand.

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« Reply #5634 on: June 22, 2020, 08:14:53 AM »
I presume any player who tests positive will not be allowed to be anywhere near any other players.  I presume many players on every team will test positive at some point.

The number of new cases in GA yesterday dropped back to 892 from 1800, which was a one day spike (I hope).

If you see a thousand new cases a day in a population of roughly 10 million, that isn't a high percentage of course, 1 in 10,000, but every day....

In GA the rates are high in some rural counties, not so high here in ATL.

There is a lot about this I don't understand.

Here in Texico, when the rate goes high in rural areas, it's often been that the virus hit a nursing home, or a meat packing plant, or some other facility that we've now discovered are high risk.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5635 on: June 22, 2020, 08:55:41 AM »
As noted, it may not be the plant where they get infected, but where they live in crowded "dorms", same as in Singapore.

These guys go home from work exhausted and tend to "mingle" and may live 4 to a room, or higher, to save money.  I know many are "illegals", but I have to admire their work ethic and the fact they send money home so their families can survive.  Nearly all the construction workers here appear to be Hispanic, and they do not stand around idly.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5636 on: June 22, 2020, 09:03:55 AM »
https://www.euronews.com/2020/06/19/covid-19-may-have-been-in-italy-as-early-as-december-2019-according-to-new-research

Given:

-The Mrs. and I were gallivanting around Italy at the end of December
- Shortly after we got back, she got viciously sick with a respiratory illness that was very different than the bronchitis we've dealt with

we are trying to find out how to get the antibody test around here. And whether any of the ones around here are worth a damn. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5637 on: June 22, 2020, 09:07:43 AM »
https://www.euronews.com/2020/06/19/covid-19-may-have-been-in-italy-as-early-as-december-2019-according-to-new-research

Given:

-The Mrs. and I were gallivanting around Italy at the end of December
- Shortly after we got back, she got viciously sick with a respiratory illness that was very different than the bronchitis we've dealt with

we are trying to find out how to get the antibody test around here. And whether any of the ones around here are worth a damn.

Start first with your PCP.  I told mine that I'd been contacted via tracing and had exposure.  They set up a telehealth visit within an hour, and had both a swab test for active infection, and a blood draw for antibodies, scheduled for me same-day.  All free for me, not sure if they billed my insurance or if the tests were free but either way, zero out of pocket.

If you're worried they won't just prescribe the test, then... well... lie about exposure.  They never asked me specifically who I'd had contact with, legally I'm not sure they even can.

But I have no reason to think they won't get you set up. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5638 on: June 22, 2020, 09:09:38 AM »
Oh, and I hear that the blood draw for antibodies, is more accurate than the finger prick,  so you might want to double-check the accuracy of the statement I just made with your own doctor, and then make sure you can get the more accurate one.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5639 on: June 22, 2020, 09:11:40 AM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/22/coronavirus-cases-surge-in-us-brazil-and-rise-in-germany.html

Now Germany reports an R0 of 2.88, not good, and perhaps supports my notion that area under the curve will be constant no matter what.

One would think this would go through India very quickly, and their reported cases probably reflect a shortage of tests.

Brazil as well, their favellas were the worst living conditions I've ever seen anywhere.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5640 on: June 22, 2020, 09:28:08 AM »
https://www.euronews.com/2020/06/19/covid-19-may-have-been-in-italy-as-early-as-december-2019-according-to-new-research

Given:

-The Mrs. and I were gallivanting around Italy at the end of December
- Shortly after we got back, she got viciously sick with a respiratory illness that was very different than the bronchitis we've dealt with

we are trying to find out how to get the antibody test around here. And whether any of the ones around here are worth a damn.
Go to CVS. Make an appointment first.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5641 on: June 22, 2020, 09:33:07 AM »
I personally would not bother with an AB test because everything I read suggests they are not reliable.

 

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