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847badgerfan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5082 on: June 08, 2020, 04:27:12 PM »
Good point.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5083 on: June 08, 2020, 04:30:15 PM »
Well it's factually correct and I think there's reason to watch the numbers very closely.  The article does mention that Texas still has a lot of available capacity in hospitals, ICUs, and ventilators.  Of course, they didn't LEAD with that info, because it won't get any eyeballs...
It says the previous high was May 5, a month ago.  One day doesn't mean anything obviously.  This high figure just topped the May 5 figure, and every day in between was lower.  Trends count.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5084 on: June 08, 2020, 04:31:03 PM »
I'd also note that at times media reports cherry pick bad states that opened early and ignore other states that opened even earlier and are not seeing a particular spike.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5085 on: June 08, 2020, 04:33:22 PM »
Florida is using <25 percent of its hospital resources right now. That's been steady for quite some time.

Illinois is using about 50 percent of its ICU beds and ventilators. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5086 on: June 08, 2020, 04:43:57 PM »
Yeah here in Texico, Houston is really driving the recent upward trend in hospitalizations.  Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin have remained relatively flat over the past month.

So the interesting thing would be, to attempt to tease out WHY Houston might be different than other cities in Texas.  And then use that information to help course correct where possible.  With numbers as low as they are compared to overall population, something as simple as a single large nursing home getting hit, could spike the numbers dramatically.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5087 on: June 08, 2020, 04:47:39 PM »
My thoughts tend to go along the lines of they did it to level the playing field. All they care about is being the World's bank.

They shut down travel within their own country, but allowed armies to go to Europe, the US, and elsewhere - threby crippling competing economies (or so they thought).

That rings alarm bells for me.
Was going to say destabilize the opposition but you brought  the bank thing - great point
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5088 on: June 08, 2020, 04:57:51 PM »
I'm fine with it elsewhere, just really trying to keep this thread clean.  And I have to say that any discussion of ACA is bound to be political in nature, ya know?  Anyway, badgerfan said it's good to discuss that kind of stuff on the 2020 stream of unconsciousness, and I knew you put a lot of effort into that post so I split it off. :)
I actually didn't put any effort in.  I could practically recite the ACA at this point. I'd say I've spent close to 2000 hours on it.

I know things I never wanted to know, and reduced people to risk and numbers.

I don't do that anymore.  :)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5089 on: June 08, 2020, 04:59:34 PM »
My thoughts tend to go along the lines of they did it to level the playing field. All they care about is being the World's bank.

They shut down travel within their own country, but allowed armies to go to Europe, the US, and elsewhere - threby crippling competing economies (or so they thought).

That rings alarm bells for me.
So they were suffering, everyone else should, too?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5090 on: June 08, 2020, 05:03:18 PM »
UM you do realize the reds make the CIA look like Parks and Recreation
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5091 on: June 08, 2020, 05:05:09 PM »
So they were suffering, everyone else should, too?
That is my line of thinking. Take everyone else down with them.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5092 on: June 08, 2020, 05:36:16 PM »
I actually didn't put any effort in.  I could practically recite the ACA at this point. I'd say I've spent close to 2000 hours on it.

I know things I never wanted to know, and reduced people to risk and numbers.

I don't do that anymore.  :)
I appreciate anyone with expertise in that area. The American system has a lot of problems. My mother recently went through chemo due to lymphoma. That want actually too bad. What was bad is that Aetna wouldn't approve an MRI until she went through physical therapy. That resulted in a shattered femur where the tumor was. She can no longer walk, but at least they ordered an MRI after that.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5093 on: June 08, 2020, 05:37:23 PM »
I chose your post to respond to, because it was the most recent one.  But your response was unwarranted and aggressive.

So now I'll match your tone-- get bent.  I'll be deleting political posts on this thread.  Don't like it?  Go somewhere else.


Now I will elevate and match your tone.  Go to hell asshat. 🖕
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5094 on: June 08, 2020, 05:43:58 PM »
I appreciate anyone with expertise in that area. The American system has a lot of problems. My mother recently went through chemo due to lymphoma. That want actually too bad. What was bad is that Aetna wouldn't approve an MRI until she went through physical therapy. That resulted in a shattered femur where the tumor was. She can no longer walk, but at least they ordered an MRI after that.
My Ma (RIP) had Medicare and Blue Cross supplements, and was never denied anything, ever.

I've heard bad things about Aetna. I once had United, and it was no gouda.

Now I have Blue Cross PPO, and have for about 25 years now. I'll never switch that, even though it costs more. It's well worth it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5095 on: June 08, 2020, 05:50:20 PM »
So they were suffering, everyone else should, too?
I highly doubt this was their reasoning. If they intended on using this disease as a weapon it was to strategically gain ground on America. Not out of some reason of spite- where oh we are suffering so we will make everyone else suffer too! The Chinese communist government stated goal is to upset the world order and end American hegemony and to replace America as the dominant world power. They explicitly state this. We should believe people when they say things. They say it and they mean it.

I don't think this virus was engineered in a lab at all. There is zero evidence for that. There is however some circumstantial evidence that it was a naturally occurring virus in bats- which makes sense- bats are literally host to thousands of viruses- and it spread through a lab accident. What there is a concrete evidence of is the Chinese communist party at first ignoring the threat of the virus and then immediately engaging in a cover-up of epic proportions once higher-ups in the party realized this thing was a lot more serious than the SARS virus they deal with just 15-16 years earlier. Xi is probably the most authoritarian leader that China has had since Mao. Makes sense that he'd try to cover this up as tightly as possible or even perhaps use it as a weapon.

This guy lived in China for 10+ years, is fluent in Mandarin and married a Chinese woman and had a baby with her before moving back to America last year because of things getting so bad in China. And I think he pretty much cracked the Coronavirus code- I think he makes a great case- everyone should watch this.




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