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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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utee94

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4102 on: May 21, 2020, 01:23:50 PM »
Sorry to hear that lh320, I sincerely hope they turn out okay.  

Do they have any idea how or when they were exposed?


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4103 on: May 21, 2020, 01:33:52 PM »
Sorry to hear that lh320, I sincerely hope they turn out okay. 

Do they have any idea how or when they were exposed?


Thanks utee

No idea but Ive not been able to talk to her yet

will do so this evening

They are in a circle of about 6 or 7 people who have it so who knows
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4104 on: May 21, 2020, 01:44:52 PM »
well funniest thing my sister in law just called to fill us in

Her son Noel is a nurse at South Austin hospital where they have lots of virus patients

he tested positive but has since been pronounced cured so he is now immune

and back at work

My brother in law also has been given a clean bill of health and he is also hopefully immune

My sister in law has about ten days to go to get past this

other then a slight temp she has no other symptoms





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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4105 on: May 21, 2020, 01:56:50 PM »
During the period I lived here, we had the Governator, and I don't think that made the rest of the country think any differently of California--and certainly not any more highly lol...
well, Minnesota had Jesse "The Body" Ventura

ruined my opinion of the voters in Minnesooota
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4106 on: May 21, 2020, 01:57:31 PM »
well funniest thing my sister in law just called to fill us in

Her son Noel is a nurse at South Austin hospital where they have lots of virus patients

he tested positive but has since been pronounced cured so he is now immune

and back at work

My brother in law also has been given a clean bill of health and he is also hopefully immune

My sister in law has about ten days to go to get past this

other then a slight temp she has no other symptoms






great news
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4107 on: May 21, 2020, 01:58:09 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4108 on: May 21, 2020, 02:16:44 PM »
I was going to say that I agree, but that the party of the governor was a dependent variable on the state's overall political makeup...

...but then I recognize that California has had plenty of Republican governors going all the way back before Reagan, and California has [my entire life] been seen as a pretty left-wing whackadoodle state. During the period I lived here, we had the Governator, and I don't think that made the rest of the country think any differently of California--and certainly not any more highly lol...
It's true that California has had several Republican governors, but all--even Nixon and Reagan--were considered fairly moderate when they were elected (and Nixon and Reagan were a long time ago by political standards). Nowadays, a Republican's only shot at state-wide office is if people get really upset about taxes and there is a scandal involving the democratic incumbent, both of which led to the Governator.

The Governator was the last (likely for a while yet), but also a special circumstance. He won election through a recall, not the traditional primary system. He likely couldn't have won the Republican primary in California because when it happened the California Republican party was already too conservative for someone like him who was/is pro choice, tolerant of gay rights, and pro environmental protections. However, he took advantage of Gray Davis's unpopularity when the energy crisis hit, sticking the state with rolling blackouts and huge bills for overpriced power (to be fair, part of the state's financial troubles stemmed from giving away the store to the state's public employees' unions); ironically, the result of deregulation (of sorts) of the power grid. When Davis raised taxes and fees to deal with the financial trouble, that compounded the blackouts the state had been dealing with, and cost him his base of support, immediately after he was re-elected. A charismatic, middle-of-the-road, wealthy (largely self-funded), well-known celebrity was able to take advantage and was elected because (1) Davis was recalled; and (2) he didn't have to win a primary to get there.

Politically, Schwarzenegger was probably a fine fit for California, but at the micro level, he was known for trying to make everyone happy, which resulted in milquetoast policies that didn't demonstrably move the ball enough for anyone to really like him when he left office (his popularity was 1% point above Davis's when Davis was recalled).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4109 on: May 21, 2020, 03:38:11 PM »
Worldometers posted their estimates of actual death rates based on NYC:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

Obviously we could quibble over a number of their statistical assumptions.

But they came away with an IFR (infection fatality rate) of 1.4%, which is a little higher than I was expecting. FYI this includes the asymptomatic and mild cases based on the antibody testing. 

They also said that 89% of fatalities in people under 65 had at least one underlying comorbid condition, which is not a big surprise IMHO.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4110 on: May 21, 2020, 03:46:33 PM »
Worldometers posted their estimates of actual death rates based on NYC:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

Obviously we could quibble over a number of their statistical assumptions.

But they came away with an IFR (infection fatality rate) of 1.4%, which is a little higher than I was expecting. FYI this includes the asymptomatic and mild cases based on the antibody testing.

They also said that 89% of fatalities in people under 65 had at least one underlying comorbid condition, which is not a big surprise IMHO.
why base anything on NYC
NYC does not reflect the vast majority of this country
NYC has 9 times more people per square mile then Houston
for example

Using NYC only serves to show what the death rate is for NYC and no where else
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4111 on: May 21, 2020, 03:48:23 PM »
Here's a podcast discussion with Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Romer, who argues that frequent mass testing is the best, most economically feasible, and most publicly acceptable way to limit the damage and reduce the risks.

https://podcast.thedispatch.com/p/paul-romer-has-a-plan-55f

Pretty interesting, I think.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4113 on: May 21, 2020, 04:09:12 PM »
why base anything on NYC
NYC does not reflect the vast majority of this country
NYC has 9 times more people per square mile then Houston
for example

Using NYC only serves to show what the death rate is for NYC and no where else
Because NYC is the only place with infection rates high enough to trust the antibody testing. 

It's not perfect, of course. Demographics [age/race] will be different than elsewhere. Level of health and comorbid conditions will be different than elsewhere. 

But sometimes you work with the best data you have, whether it's perfect or not.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4114 on: May 21, 2020, 04:28:09 PM »
Because NYC is the only place with infection rates high enough to trust the antibody testing.

It's not perfect, of course. Demographics [age/race] will be different than elsewhere. Level of health and comorbid conditions will be different than elsewhere.

But sometimes you work with the best data you have, whether it's perfect or not.
Still the fact remains that it is very possible that due to demographics NYC has a much higher rate then the norm

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4115 on: May 21, 2020, 04:34:04 PM »
Still the fact remains that it is very possible that due to demographics NYC has a much higher rate then the norm
Of course. It's also possible that due to demographics it has a lower rate than the norm, right? 

 

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