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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Cincydawg

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3626 on: May 09, 2020, 07:56:48 AM »
It's fine to dislike him.  I find the various rumors that he is extremely evil and wants to implant microchips in all of us to be ... non-main stream thinking.

I admit to being very doubtful of just about any conspiracy theory that is popular.  They imply, generally, that some humans are extraordinarily competent and nefarious.  And that can be the case rarely.  A group tends not to function well in my experience the larger it grows.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3627 on: May 09, 2020, 07:57:45 AM »
we don't need no stinking microchips!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3628 on: May 09, 2020, 09:00:57 AM »
we don't need no stinking microchips!
tell that to my dog
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3629 on: May 09, 2020, 09:05:15 AM »
Bill Gates was a ruthless and cutthroat businessman for decades.  I watched up close from within the industry as he crushed numerous companies through anticompetitive behavior of questionable legality.  

After his retirement, he seems to have changed, at least by appearances.  He's engaged in numerous philanthropic endeavors, so good for him.  I don't hate him, but I certainly won't ever trust him.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3630 on: May 09, 2020, 09:06:52 AM »
How many "nice guys" are CEOs of major corporations?

I knew one who appeared to be a nice guy.  Maybe he was.  The story was that some not very nice guys at the level just below him manipulated him.

Nice guys in the corporate world finish ..... not well.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3631 on: May 09, 2020, 02:15:55 PM »
Wait, that suggests the economic system in place rewards unethical practices!  Luckily, our political system is free from that sort of thing!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3632 on: May 09, 2020, 03:25:50 PM »
I do not like Bill Gates. I do not like China.
I'm with you. Add that dweeb Zuckerberg from Facebook and Jeff Beezos from Amazon to the list. Although if Beezos really does wind up buying the Detroit Lions and turns them into a Super Bowl winner, I'll give him a small pass.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3633 on: May 09, 2020, 03:56:48 PM »
The idea that ID2020 is going to microchip us all with a vaccine is .... a bit out there, for me.
https://id2020.org/

probably one of the most disturbing websites I have ever seen. And who are the 3 main partners in id2020? Microsoft- one of the leading tech/cloud companies in the world. GAVI- the global alliance for vaccines and immunizations. Accenture- the masterminds behind the US gov't HealthCare.gov site. Accenture is a spin-off of the disgraced now defunct Arthur Andersen accounting firm- it was an American company but for tax/legal purposes moved the companies headquarters/incorporation from the US to Bermuda and then to Ireland where it's based now.

I love how corporations have person-hood and can move "citizenship" from country to country more freely than actual people can. LOL.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3634 on: May 09, 2020, 04:17:45 PM »
we don't need no stinking microchips!
great thing about this country- is our 1st and 2nd amendment. Our government ever tried that shit here in the US there would be a full on revolt. Brought a tear to my eye to see those people in Michigan storm the capital with their guns. Government should be afraid of the people. Not the other way around.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3635 on: May 09, 2020, 04:23:26 PM »
Corporations have had some of the same rights as individuals since the country was founded.  I was just reading about one of the decisions of the Marshall court about that.

The rumors about implanting microchips in humans are, in my view, "fantastic" in the literal sense of the word, just conspiratorial silliness.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3636 on: May 09, 2020, 04:48:08 PM »
Corporations have had some of the same rights as individuals since the country was founded.  I was just reading about one of the decisions of the Marshall court about that.

The rumors about implanting microchips in humans are, in my view, "fantastic" in the literal sense of the word, just conspiratorial silliness.
The US constitution never mentioned corporate personhood. Corporations had some rights. Not all. And now it's swung in the complete opposite direction to the point where they have more rights than actual living breathing people. They didn't become "people" until passage of the 14th amendment which had clever wording- using the word person instead of citizen to include corporations in the 14th amendment- and a bunch of supreme court cases that followed bastardized and misinterpreted the amendment to basically grant corporations personhood. And it's absolute horseshit. And it needs to change. ASAP.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/history-corporate-personhood


The microchipping fad has already begun. It's still in it's infancy. So long as it stays voluntary, got no problem with it at all. IF countries ever decide to pass laws which state people have to get them- then we've got a major problem.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/22/658808705/thousands-of-swedes-are-inserting-microchips-under-their-skin

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/08/the-rise-of-microchipping-are-we-ready-for-technology-to-get-under-the-skin

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2020/02/04/Dangerous-idea-States-should-ban-mandatory-microchipping/stories/202001290028

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3637 on: May 09, 2020, 04:59:16 PM »
I clearly stated that corporations have had SOME rights since the founding of the country.   AS for whatever needs to change "immediately", that clearly isn't going to happen.  The Constitution says what SCOTUS says it says, there is no recourse to that fact, except for a different SCOTUS down the line.

SOME.

And as for microchipping, the conspiracy "theory" is Gates is going to make us all get a vaccine that will contain a microchip unbeknownst to all but those "in the know".




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3638 on: May 09, 2020, 06:41:33 PM »
How many NCAA athletic departments will be unable exact concessions from coaches and become insolvent if this thing continues into this fall and college football is on a reduced schedule, or even a full schedule without fans in stands?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2020/04/02/coronavirus-cutting-college-coaches-pay-crisis-right-call-iowa-state/5116446002/

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3639 on: May 09, 2020, 08:01:24 PM »
great thing about this country- is our 1st and 2nd amendment. Our government ever tried that shit here in the US there would be a full on revolt. Brought a tear to my eye to see those people in Michigan storm the capital with their guns. Government should be afraid of the people. Not the other way around.
I find that kind of LARPing odd.

 

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