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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3556 on: May 07, 2020, 10:51:30 AM »
does she walk like a duck?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3557 on: May 07, 2020, 10:55:42 AM »
I have no idea. Is she?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3558 on: May 07, 2020, 11:01:36 AM »
Her Wikipedia page certainly doesn’t paint her in a very positive light.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3559 on: May 07, 2020, 11:03:33 AM »
I watched about 5 minutes of it.  The "reviews" of her comments you can find on line are scathing.

I think she is a complete whack job.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3560 on: May 07, 2020, 11:10:38 AM »
"Towards the middle of the video, Willis asks Mikovits if she’s antivaccine, which, of course, she denies. After characterizing vaccines as an “immune therapy,” she then goes on to buying into the conspiracy that SARS-CoV-2 (the coronavirus that causes COVID-19) was “manipulated and studied” in a laboratory and then escaped. She then makes the utterly nonsensical claim that if SARS-CoV-2 had evolved naturally it would have taken 800 years. (Seriously, she’s a virologist?) Her difference is that she claims that the virus must have been released somehow between Fort Detrick and the Wuhan laboratory. She even claimed that in 1999 she worked at Fort Detrick in order to “teach Ebola how to infect human cells,” further claiming that Ebola couldn’t infect human cells until it had been “taught” how to do it. Apparently Ebola came from a lab too.

Indeed, the amount of nonsense, misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracy mongering in Mikovits’ response to questions is truly epic. She likens COVID-19 infection to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), which is even more nonsensical. She agrees with the conspiracy theory that doctors are being pushed to misclassify deaths due to other causes as due to COVID-19. Willis even included a clip of Dr. Dan Erickson making that claim. You might recall that he and Dr. Artin Massihi made a misinformation-laden video claiming that COVID-19 prevalence was so much higher than estimated and using that estimate to claim that COVID-19 is actually five times less lethal than seasonal flu. I emphasize that, in reality, the case and death count from COVID-19 is grossly underestimated. Why the pressure? Because government reimbursement is higher for a diagnosis of COVID-19, apparently. Basically, all the common conspiracy theories about COVID-19 make an appearance, including the claim that it was the flu vaccine that got it started, but with a spin. Mikovits claims that Italy was hit so hard because the virus for the flu vaccine it used was grown in dog cells and dog cells have a lot of coronavirus. She also cites the bogus claim that the flu vaccine increases your chance of getting COVID-19 by 36%. It doesn’t.
Oh, and hydroxychloroquine makes an appearance, too, because of course it does. Hydroxychloroquine probably doesn’t work, but Mikovits is all-in with conspiracy theories about it.
Mark and Chris Hoofnagle coined a term “crank magnetism,” in which a person who believes in one form of pseudoscience or one conspiracy theory will tend to believe in multiple pseudoscientific beliefs and conspiracy theories. When, late in the video, Mikovits asks why we’re closing beaches because there are “healing microbes in the sand,” I had to stop. There’s just so much idiocy I can tolerate.
Sadly, as Judy Mikovits demonstrates, the COVID-19 pandemic is drawing cranks and conspiracy theorists like it moths to a light. Chief among them are antivax grifters like Judy Mikovits. She’s so wrong she’s not even wrong, and she’s gone full conspiracy theorist, taking advantage of the COVID-19 pandemic to be reborn as a COVID-19 crank, grifting with her book and a “doctor education” company. Sadly, she’s not alone."

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3561 on: May 07, 2020, 11:37:03 AM »
This is another classic case for confirmation bias.


https://www.reddit.com/r/CovIdiots/comments/gezery/plandemic_documentary_debunked/

The “documentary” begins…
“Dr. Judy Mikovits has been called one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation.
… [claims that Dr. Mikovits revolutionized AIDS testing and treatment]
At the height of her career, Dr. Mikovits published a blockbuster article in the journal, Science. The controversial article sent shockwaves through the scientific community as it revealed that the common use of animal and human fetal tissues were unleashing devastating plagues of chronic diseases. For exposing their deadly secrets, the minions of Big Pharma waged war on Dr. Mikovits Destroying her good name, career and personal life.”
At minute 1:55 in the film “one of the most accomplished scientists of her time” claims that she was arrested, but charged with NOTHING. At minute 1:58 she claims to have been held in jail with no charges, which if true would absolutely violate the 6th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. 2:05 she claims there was “no warrant” for her arrest and at 2:13 she claims that her house was searched without a warrant which if true, would violate the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and at 2:26 she claims that the stolen intellectual property was PLANTED in her house in California. At 2:57 she claims that the FBI are involved (they were not) and that her case in under seal so that no attorney can represent her or defend her, or they would be found in contempt of court, which if true would of course violate too many Constitutional norms to enumerate but yes, basically ALL of them are being denied her… according to her.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3562 on: May 07, 2020, 11:56:06 AM »
Eh, Idk. I saw the video on another site and thought it was an interesting but when you vet her a little bit her credibility takes a hit. I had never heard of her but I had never heard of Fauci before all this either.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3563 on: May 07, 2020, 11:58:19 AM »
Bill Gates, the Bilderburgs, the Tripartite Commission, the Woods folks, Rothschilds, just about anyone who is fairly well known.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3564 on: May 07, 2020, 12:02:18 PM »
https://www.cnn.com

Well if you raise a dissenting opinion in Russia- they throw you out a window.  I guess that’s better than China where you just disappear.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3565 on: May 07, 2020, 01:11:07 PM »
Y'all familiar with the word "defenestrate?"

It's long been one of my favorite words, but not much chance to use it in everyday conversation.

Other than when discussing Russian doctors, apparently...

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3566 on: May 07, 2020, 02:37:57 PM »
Yeah, great word, nothing to do with fences really.

It is from the French, of course.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3567 on: May 07, 2020, 02:44:24 PM »

Yeah, great word, nothing to do with fences really.

It is from the French, of course.
whats that line from "My Fair Lady": 

the French dont care what they do actually as long as they pronounce it properly
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3569 on: May 07, 2020, 02:51:48 PM »
what pisses me off about this Plandemic thing is YouTube keeps taking it down. Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc., etc., have protection from Section 230. They are literally f$$$king immune from liability. STOP censoring shit just because you don't like what people are saying. Makes no sense to me.

As long as no laws are being broken (see Backpage and it's sex-trafficking ring) - these Big Tech firms should stop censoring shit just because they don't like what someone says. Drives me crazy.

 

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