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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2842 on: April 25, 2020, 01:21:57 AM »
Ah, the lakes. This is why the worst season for cities near the Great Lakes is actually the spring.  The MF lakes take so long to warm up it completely dominates the climate.  Spring does not exist in Milwaukee/Chicago, etc.

Amazing what 5-10 miles inland does in those locales.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2843 on: April 25, 2020, 09:16:32 AM »
It's probably more of a pet peeve of mine. I think words can be powerful. They invoke strong emotion and action. That particular word is often used to invoke strong emotion, and I often feel like it's used for a bit of slight of hand. Someone who would likely qualify for the descriptor uses is to sort of reflect. By dropping it, they imply they are not "elites" because they stand opposed to such people. And sometimes the people they turn it to are so broad and faceless, they don't really qualify for the title at all.

I feel like I've seen some TV talking heads, one's paid millions a year, who will rail about the "elites" and then depart by car service to their massive homes in NY or DC. I've seen a president who puts his name on massive buildings in the heart of NY decry such elites. It because a a way of saying "This person I don't like looks down at you, so be mad at them and maybe don't look at me or the influence I try to wield."

In the end, I find it an evocative but lazy descriptor. Like if you'd like to blast that particular politician for being rich and having the things rich folks have, that's cool. But I think then we can turn it and blast all rich politicians, and then all rich folks who try to use their success as a base to wield influence. And at a point, you maybe shouldn't listen to anyone successful because chances are, they there some way they don't know how it is for most folks.

Oddly enough, the writer had to roll it back, essentially calling himself an elite and saying he was really only referring to "TV talking heads, politicians and bureaucrats," which is basically a who's who of kind of meaningless broad groups that no one likes on balance.
Hollywood comes to mind. And PJ Barnum.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2844 on: April 25, 2020, 09:31:03 AM »
Actually, driving without a buckled seat belt impairs your ability to control your vehicle in an emergency situation, because you end up hanging on to the steering wheel for dear life rather than using it to control where you are going.
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I'd have liked to be a tester

when the situation is extreme enough that the seat belt is holding yer butt to the seat, the average driver is F'ed
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2845 on: April 25, 2020, 09:42:42 AM »
I'd have liked to be a tester

when the situation is extreme enough that the seat belt is holding yer butt to the seat, the average driver is F'ed
growing up in the 60s there were two things you never saw in your car

seat belts

air conditioner

somehow we managed to survive without them

and the consoles werent made of soft cushy plastic
nope they were made of metal which if you were in an accident were very unforgiving 

under the hood you actually had distributors not this computer chip stuff

again somehow we managed to get along without them 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2846 on: April 25, 2020, 09:43:33 AM »
Yeah, if g forces are high enough that your seat belt is keeping you in position, you probably are out of control anyway for most drivers and panicked.

Most drivers never experience lateral gs anywhere near what a car can do, which generally is about 0.8 even for a regular car.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2847 on: April 25, 2020, 09:45:09 AM »
Most folks back then didn't have accidents, if they did, the fatality rates would be very high.  My dad had seat belts installed in our 1963 Chevy.  Our 1965 malibu had seat belts from the factory and factory air, which was a novel thing.

That car had a 307 engine as I recall, it was "fancy".

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2848 on: April 25, 2020, 09:51:05 AM »
Ah, the lakes. This is why the worst season for cities near the Great Lakes is actually the spring. 
The lake doesn't freeze over as much as it use to,much to the chagrin of us ice fisherman or snowmobilers.But In Old Cleveland Stadium that was right on the lake the 1st 2-3 weeks of the Indians season could be brutal.Look out from your seats over the lake and there were still huge swaths of ice.That old stadium was brick/mortar/steel and once cold it didn't thaw until like the beginning of june.Set your beer down and it was a slushie in an inning or two.It was funny when there were smaller crowds they would follow the sun around to what ever section it shined on as the game went along.More often than not the Indians opener was as cold as the Browns season finale.Was about 8-9 years ago Cleveland rerouted their opener to balmy Milwaukee it was cold/snowing here for a week
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2849 on: April 25, 2020, 10:02:19 AM »
growing up in the 60s there were two things you never saw in your car

seat belts

air conditioner

somehow we managed to survive without them

and the consoles werent made of soft cushy plastic
nope they were made of metal which if you were in an accident were very unforgiving

under the hood you actually had distributors not this computer chip stuff

again somehow we managed to get along without them
I mean, we also got by without penicillin and with the black plague. None the less, probably fine. (This is more about seatbelt. If you have a strong desire to drive around Texas without AC, have at)

This led me down an interest rabbit hole when I learned there was a short moment when they considered seatbelt interlock systems (not very good ones). When I was younger, I often wondered if one could remove the social stigma against breathalyzer interlocks. I suppose the cost would be prohibitive. But man, a car that made you aware you were drunk, that seems like a not bad idea. (I know, I know, it's easily beat, especially for a degenerate with a child)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2850 on: April 25, 2020, 10:09:33 AM »
 If you have a strong desire to drive around Texas without AC, have at
I remember years ago when AC wasn't standard.Someone who bought a new car and showing it off would retort that it had 270 AC,roll down 2 windows and go 70
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2851 on: April 25, 2020, 10:12:23 AM »
I mean, we also got by without penicillin and with the black plague. None the less, probably fine. (This is more about seatbelt. If you have a strong desire to drive around Texas without AC, have at)

This led me down an interest rabbit hole when I learned there was a short moment when they considered seatbelt interlock systems (not very good ones). When I was younger, I often wondered if one could remove the social stigma against breathalyzer interlocks. I suppose the cost would be prohibitive. But man, a car that made you aware you were drunk, that seems like a not bad idea. (I know, I know, it's easily beat, especially for a degenerate with a child)
Life was much simpler 

There only about 10 things that could break in your car engine and you  didnt need a $100 an hour mechanic with a diagnostic machine to tell you what was wrong

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2852 on: April 25, 2020, 11:16:25 AM »
growing up in the 60s there were two things you never saw in your car

seat belts

air conditioner

somehow we managed to survive without them

and the consoles werent made of soft cushy plastic
nope they were made of metal which if you were in an accident were very unforgiving

under the hood you actually had distributors not this computer chip stuff

again somehow we managed to get along without them
Another thing you never see anymore.
45-50,000 Americans--in a population less than 2/3 of our current one--dying in car wrecks every year.
Cars are better, safer, cleaner, and more efficient today.  You can defeat a lot of the "safer" part by not wearing your seatbelt, though.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2853 on: April 25, 2020, 11:18:24 AM »
I'd have liked to be a tester

when the situation is extreme enough that the seat belt is holding yer butt to the seat, the average driver is F'ed
If you're buckled in, you can survive far worse collisions than you could if you were not.

And you're also less of a threat to the other drivers on the road.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2854 on: April 25, 2020, 11:27:42 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2855 on: April 25, 2020, 11:34:18 AM »
I remember in driver's ed we sat in a machine that dropped your seat at a 45° incline to simulate a 12 mph collision with solid object.  It was very jarring, no way you'd stay put at that deceleration.

 

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