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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2128 on: April 17, 2020, 03:05:06 PM »
and second because the government worked to ensure it was not written about. 
Wait, I thought only China did stuff like that...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2129 on: April 17, 2020, 03:06:18 PM »
Factory Farms???

you're not a PETA person are you?

I've been out of the meat packing industry for over 20 years now, but.......... even back then the producers.  Feed lots for cattle and hog confinements for hogs were designed to be decent for the animals.

Happy animals with less stress produce better quality meat than mistreated animals.  Even once these animals are unloaded at the slaughter facility the process is designed to calm them down and make things easy for them.

Tough to produce enough meat for a city the size of Phoenix with folks having a steer and a hog in the pen behind the house or a free range area in west Texas.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2130 on: April 17, 2020, 03:08:23 PM »
Per some online encyclopedia I found, illness, mostly the flu, accounted for more than 54 percent of American losses in WWI.

They did not have the public discussion of the accounting however, first because they lacked message boards/social media, and second because the government worked to ensure it was not written about.
Yes.  The Wilson administration censored the information, lest the news interfere with the war effort.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2131 on: April 17, 2020, 03:08:46 PM »
I agree.  That looks like the picture is taking looking to the west, and that's the way the heavier traffic is headed.  The sun is behind the photographer, over his/her right shoulder, like it would be mid-morning.



Looking at Google Maps, there's a Robertson Blvd. exit at Culver City for westbound traffic.  There's a nearby exit for eastbound traffic, but it doesn't exit directly onto Robertson Blvd.

And LAX is to the south (left), which would explain the airplane in the upper left climbing out.


Guys, no sleuthing necessary.  The tweet is labeled. :)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2132 on: April 17, 2020, 03:10:48 PM »
Every combatant government attempted to minimize news about the 1918 flu for obvious reasons.  It's called the Spanish flu because they were allowed to write about it.

It did kill more people than died in the war, perhaps 1/3 to half the world's population was infected and ten percent died (or those sick).

Imagine something that lethal with delayed onset of symptoms.

Don't.

Most paved roads followed whatever paths were already there obviously, some of which were literally cow paths.

Atlanta is hilly enough to have a nongrid base of roads outside near downtown.  Driving in LA was nice because of the grid in the valley floor.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2133 on: April 17, 2020, 03:14:34 PM »

Tough to produce enough meat for a city the size of Phoenix
No, PETA is nuts.  
I think the decency and comfort of the animals is relative.  
But the key is this idea of "enough meat".  What does that mean?  Right now, it means producing enough meat for there to be enough for everyone who wants it and at a low-enough price they're willing to buy it.  If more was spent providing the meat, the cost would go up and people would eat less of it.  Can't have that - we have stockholders!
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Anyway, the larger issue is land and water usage for meat production.  They are real issues that will worsen over time, probably sooner than climate change.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2134 on: April 17, 2020, 03:16:18 PM »
so, are the poor people, I keep hearing about, eating too much meat because the price is too low?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2135 on: April 17, 2020, 03:16:43 PM »
Most paved roads followed whatever paths were already there obviously, some of which were literally cow paths.

This is a smart way to create sidewalks on school campuses and other large lots.  Wait a few weeks, see where the people create paths, and then pave them.  Too often, builders dictate where people walk when it should be the other way around.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2136 on: April 17, 2020, 03:16:51 PM »
Guys, no sleuthing necessary.  The tweet is labeled. :)
Labels are sometimes erroneous.
A newspaper headline is a label of sorts.  And headlines are wrong all the time.
Maybe it's because of L.A.'s newly improved air quality, but that looks like early-mid-morning light more than mid-late afternoon light.  And why would the heavy traffic be heading inbound to downtown L.A. in the afternoon?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2137 on: April 17, 2020, 03:19:13 PM »
so, are the poor people, I keep hearing about, eating too much meat because the price is too low?
When did I cite poor people when discussing this?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2138 on: April 17, 2020, 03:23:57 PM »
So, can we say the Spanish Flu killed all the Americans WHO died in the war then?
Nope.

Just the ones who died of the flu.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2139 on: April 17, 2020, 03:27:28 PM »
Wait, I thought only China did stuff like that...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2140 on: April 17, 2020, 03:28:21 PM »
Wait, I thought only China did stuff like that...
Well, we have Americans--like you--who believe in totalitarian government and censorship of the news.  Sometimes they get into positions of power.  Woodrow Wilson was in power in 1918.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2141 on: April 17, 2020, 03:30:35 PM »
Guys, no sleuthing necessary.  The tweet is labeled. :)

Yeah, but that doofus could be wrong. But in this case, he's not. Checking on a map of the area confirms it for me, as the roadway takes a turn to the left before the Robertson exit there.
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