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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2114 on: April 17, 2020, 02:20:53 PM »
I'd need to see same time of day etc. but maybe so.  We have not driven anywhere today.  Traffic here has been light throughout, which is nice.  Going to Costco means about 6 miles of freeway.

I don't know where people are going though.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2115 on: April 17, 2020, 02:21:13 PM »
People are "over it", and we're in like the 3rd inning of the baseball game.  This is brutally stupid.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2116 on: April 17, 2020, 02:26:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 17, 2020, 02:20:53 PM
I'd need to see same time of day etc. but maybe so.  We have not driven anywhere today.  Traffic here has been light throughout, which is nice.  Going to Costco means about 6 miles of freeway.

I don't know where people are going though. 
Going West on "the 10" means they are headed for Santa Monica - and the beaches. At least I think it's West, based on the place taking off in the background.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2117 on: April 17, 2020, 02:28:04 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 17, 2020, 02:19:55 PM
This is the only sentence you needed to type.  See, we agree.
No, we don't agree.

The masses have nothing to do with it. And the masses are the ones who ultimately got screwed while a very select few have gone on to make record amounts of profit. All by killing millions of jobs in the US and sending them to China and suppressing wages for those same jobs that remain in the US.

Cheaper goods for consumers have nothing to do with it. Most of the time the goods aren't being sold any cheaper- and the ones that are sold cheaper HAVE to be sold cheaper or no one would f***king buy them because millions of jobs have been lost and the jobs that remained- well those wages have been suppressed by lack of employment competition (compare to the 60's or 70's or 80's) and by the threat of out-sourcing (how they continually beat up unions and workers in negotiations).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2118 on: April 17, 2020, 02:30:58 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 17, 2020, 02:28:04 PM
No, we don't agree.

The masses have nothing to do with it. And the masses are the ones who ultimately got screwed while a very select few have gone on to make record amounts of profit. All by killing millions of jobs in the US and sending them to China and suppressing wages for those same jobs that remain in the US.

Cheaper goods for consumers have nothing to do with it. Most of the time the goods aren't being sold any cheaper- and the ones that are sold cheaper HAVE to be sold cheaper or no one would f***king buy them because millions of jobs have been lost and the jobs that remained- well those wages have been suppressed by lack of employment competition (compare to the 60's or 70's or 80's) and by the threat of out-sourcing (how they continually beat up unions and workers in negotiations).
Sigh.
Why is our economy tanking during this virus?  What's causing the financial standstill?  That should be plenty to go on.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2119 on: April 17, 2020, 02:40:56 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2020, 02:26:23 PM
Going West on "the 10" means they are headed for Santa Monica - and the beaches. At least I think it's West, based on the place taking off in the background.

No that's I10 eastbound into downtown. 

Didn't look like that a week ago.  People have had it.

Edit: Oh, are you talking about the light traffic?  Yes that is westbound.  Heavy traffic is eastbound.  People are leaving their homes in the suburbs and headed to the city center.

Not sure what they're going to do there, but there you have it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2120 on: April 17, 2020, 02:42:28 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2121 on: April 17, 2020, 02:43:33 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2020, 11:54:58 AM
Some interesting stuff in a gallery from today's Tribune, from 1918 (Spanish Flu).


https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-historical-spanish-influenza-chicago-tribune-20200415-ybhhqnznwfb6zjtcwdopshzbim-photogallery.html
That one killed from 500,000 to 750,000 out of a population of only about 75 million.  We've got a long way to go to top that.
Had they imposed the restrictions then that we have now, that death toll would have been much lower.
But there was a war on.  Army units with guys falling out from the flu while marching down to the docks nevertheless loaded troopships and headed off to France.  One troopship had (IIRC) some 80 deaths from the flu during and immediately after the crossing.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2122 on: April 17, 2020, 02:48:54 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on April 17, 2020, 02:43:33 PM
That one killed from 500,000 to 750,000 out of a population of only about 75 million.  We've got a long way to go to top that.
Had they imposed the restrictions then that we have now, that death toll would have been much lower.
But there was a war on.  Army units with guys falling out from the flu while marching down to the docks nevertheless loaded troopships and headed off to France.  One troopship had (IIRC) some 80 deaths from the flu during and immediately after the crossing.
So, can we say the Spanish Flu killed all the Americans WHO died in the war then?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2123 on: April 17, 2020, 02:50:53 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 17, 2020, 01:47:34 PM
Yes, a leader would be nice.  Do you know of any?
I'm not supposed to name names here  ;)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2124 on: April 17, 2020, 02:52:02 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 17, 2020, 02:40:56 PM
No that's I10 eastbound into downtown. 

Didn't look like that a week ago.  People have had it.

Edit: Oh, are you talking about the light traffic?  Yes that is westbound.  Heavy traffic is eastbound.  People are leaving their homes in the suburbs and headed to the city center.

Not sure what they're going to do there, but there you have it.


I got turned around. I'm used to big water always being to the East... habits.

So they are all headed back to LA, from a day AT the beach. Got it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2125 on: April 17, 2020, 03:00:55 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2020, 02:26:23 PM
Going West on "the 10" means they are headed for Santa Monica - and the beaches. At least I think it's West, based on the place taking off in the background.
I agree.  That looks like the picture is taking looking to the west, and that's the way the heavier traffic is headed.  The sun is behind the photographer, over his/her right shoulder, like it would be mid-morning.



Looking at Google Maps, there's a Robertson Blvd. exit at Culver City for westbound traffic.  There's a nearby exit for eastbound traffic, but it doesn't exit directly onto Robertson Blvd.

And LAX is to the south (left), which would explain the airplane in the upper left climbing out.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2126 on: April 17, 2020, 03:03:20 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2020, 02:48:54 PM
So, can we say the Spanish Flu killed all the Americans WHO died in the war then?
Per some online encyclopedia I found, illness, mostly the flu, accounted for more than 54 percent of American losses in WWI.

They did not have the public discussion of the accounting however, first because they lacked message boards/social media, and second because the government worked to ensure it was not written about.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2127 on: April 17, 2020, 03:04:29 PM »
LA is certainly a paved jungle.  Phoenix is laid out like an anal retentive person was building it on a video game.  LA is laid out like a deranged crackhead was given a crayon and a map, and they paved wherever his lines went.
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