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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2086 on: April 17, 2020, 01:08:06 PM »
If there's money to be had in the future because of class action lawsuits or other means - we extort China

I want COVID-19 somewhere on my medical file or death certificate!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2087 on: April 17, 2020, 01:15:02 PM »
get Moose and Rocko from Caddyshack to lend a hand
One of my favorite movies.  "Moose, Rocko. See if you can help the judge find his wallet!" :57:

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2088 on: April 17, 2020, 01:15:46 PM »

I want COVID-19 somewhere on my medical file or death certificate!
You want It?Well stop that.Just curious how much of our pharmacueticals do we gtet from china?How much can we trust the content moving forward?
« Last Edit: April 17, 2020, 01:21:38 PM by MrNubbz »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2089 on: April 17, 2020, 01:19:07 PM »
You want It?Well stop that.Just curious how much of our pharmacueticals do we gtet from china?How much can we trust the content moving forward
For a lot of basics, the figure is astoundingly high, ibuprofen, amoxicillin, etc.  I was shocked.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2090 on: April 17, 2020, 01:29:04 PM »
For a lot of basics, the figure is astoundingly high, ibuprofen, amoxicillin, etc.  I was shocked.
80+% of all of the drugs in the US market are manufactured in China I believe.

And about 90%+ of all the chemicals for the drugs in the US market are manufactured...in China.

We are so depended upon China for so much of our shit that it is disgusting. You can thank US lawmakers for that.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2091 on: April 17, 2020, 01:31:53 PM »
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2092 on: April 17, 2020, 01:32:29 PM »
😂😂😂😂
Thanks M- I needed that belly laugh
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2093 on: April 17, 2020, 01:39:16 PM »
And I think this is helping to drive the fear people are having. I have talked with people that say they will NOT come out of their house until a vaccine is available. I told them that could take well over a year, they didn't care.

But that is also leading to people willing to suffer through other medical issues instead of "risking" going to the hospital. I have heard stories that people in NY City had died of heart attacks at home because they were afraid to go the hospital.

My point is that these bogus numbers are causing irrational fear in people that may be leading to other deaths.

In general, the CDC estimates that about 50-60 MILLION Americans contract the seasonal flu every year. Does anyone believe ALL of those people are tested for the flu? No. In reality, they only test a few hundred thousand people a year. The 50-60 Million is extrapolated from the number tested and taking into account the number of people that may get the flu, but never see a doctor and so on. So when the mortality rate of the flu is advertised to be around 0.1%, people feel pretty safe that even if the get the flu, they will most likely survive.

But now we are getting numbers from the CDC saying that only about 600,000 people have gotten the Covid virus and of those, 30 some thousand have died. That puts the mortality rate somewhere around 2% or 20 times that of the seasonal flu. THAT scares the crap out of people that simply look at the headlines and don't dive into the numbers.

If the government/CDC did the same extrapolation for Covid as they do the seasonal flu, my guess is that the number of actual infections would be in the several millions which in turn would bring the mortality rate more in line with the seasonal flu. And who knows, maybe after this is pretty much over and the numbers come in, they will. But that does nothing to help to quell the fears of people today.
The CDC has undergone mission creep, and it now gets into many things that are not diseases.  When you start doing things beyond your charter, you don't do your essential missions as well.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2094 on: April 17, 2020, 01:42:51 PM »
80+% of all of the drugs in the US market are manufactured in China I believe.

And about 90%+ of all the chemicals for the drugs in the US market are manufactured...in China.

We are so depended upon China for so much of our shit that it is disgusting. You can thank US lawmakers for that.
You can also thank the masses for wanting the cheapest possible stuff, regardless of the methods it's created or where.  If the masses didn't blindly want the cheapest thing, generics wouldn't exist, we'd source meat in more ethical ways, and all of our drugs wouldn't come from China.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2095 on: April 17, 2020, 01:44:56 PM »
we'd source meat in more ethical ways


Huh?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2096 on: April 17, 2020, 01:45:57 PM »
You can also thank the masses for wanting the cheapest possible stuff, regardless of the methods it's created or where.  If the masses didn't blindly want the cheapest thing, generics wouldn't exist, we'd source meat in more ethical ways, and all of our drugs wouldn't come from China.
I guess the masses need a Leader to tell them what to do.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2097 on: April 17, 2020, 01:47:13 PM »
we'd source meat in more ethical ways


Huh?
Factory farms exist to produce the cheapest meat possible......
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2098 on: April 17, 2020, 01:47:34 PM »
I guess the masses need a Leader to tell them what to do.
Yes, a leader would be nice.  Do you know of any?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2099 on: April 17, 2020, 01:51:32 PM »
Consumers do want the best value possible, and part of that equation is price.  My step son would only buy "cage free eggs" even though they are about 3x the price.  OK with me, but I buy regular eggs.  A lot of folks buy "organic" which I think often is a scam, and I buy "inorganic" produce.  I've had "grass fed" beef and it sucks.  When my house was built, I'm sure a lot of trees were cut down to make the timber.  I am guilty of buying generic ibuprofen and naproxen.

Our food chain is highly dependent on "industrial farming and ranching" and the Haber process.

 

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