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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1974 on: April 16, 2020, 09:32:34 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 16, 2020, 08:57:30 AM

I actually did this at about age 4

I still remember my brother laughing at me as I sat there dumbfounded

In Texas its called getting an education




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1975 on: April 16, 2020, 09:33:34 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 16, 2020, 09:11:17 AM
I don't advise that Max. You could get hurt that way.

OK guys, we've (I've??) mentioned this before. Policy is fine here. Politics (and naming politicians) is not fine here.

This whole thing is a bloody mess. From the WHO telling the world there was no evidence of human spread, to a major leader encouraging a big party in San Francisco's China Town, to Dr. Fauci advising us on March 9 that's OK to take a cruise, to Marti Gras being held, to Spring Break being allowed to happen, to elections being held...

We now see how this all happened.

It's not about agendas here in the US. Our government (Fed, State, Local), the CDC, the doctors.. None had a clue what this thing was. Nor did any of us.

It's time we all come together and unite against this virus.
Well said 847

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1976 on: April 16, 2020, 09:35:36 AM »
I just made a bimonthly run to Walmart.  Not many customers, a lot of employees.  The place was unusually neat.  The were short of beef.  They had some TP, the aisle was not full and they had a sign up on allocation.  I thought it would be fully replenished by now.  This Walmart is across the freeway from a very wealthy part of the city and to the other side is a semi-industrial area that is changing rapidly with construction of apartment buildings.  

They seemed to be fully stocked with everything else, the dried bean selection was still low.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1977 on: April 16, 2020, 09:40:00 AM »
Here in northwest Houston Kroger is well stocked on meat and just about everything else even TP
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1978 on: April 16, 2020, 09:46:40 AM »
Our grocery stores have had TP for a while, and finally have flour and hand sanitizer and clorox wipes.  We only bought the flour, we have plenty of the rest.  

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« Reply #1979 on: April 16, 2020, 10:04:22 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1980 on: April 16, 2020, 10:06:48 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1981 on: April 16, 2020, 10:23:52 AM »
I think that Americans will do just about anything within reason to get rid of this virus but the Michigan governor has
crossed several lines concerning peoples rights and not many Americans will put up with it

She needs to reassess reasonableness 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1982 on: April 16, 2020, 10:46:01 AM »
I just read Whitmer's order... Link below if anyone wants to look at it...

What's so extreme about it?

https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/0,9309,7-387-90499_90705-525182--,00.html
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1983 on: April 16, 2020, 10:58:39 AM »
So... GO BLUE? :)

Anyone wanna summarize the "unreasonableness" and the response of the citizens?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1984 on: April 16, 2020, 11:06:46 AM »
Just a few:

If you own a vacation home in the State of Michigan, you are not allowed to travel to it from your main home in Michigan.

It's OK to go out on a sailboat, but power boats for fishing are off-limits. (WTF?? I read this in the Chicago paper)

From MLive:

(You can't have a garden apparently?? Can't do any home improvements while you are.. at home... Furniture I get. You don't want people testing out furniture and then have other people test it out after.)


Grocery stores and other retailers that sell food, medicine and other essentials are allowed to remain open during the stay-at-home order, although they’ll now be subject to additional occupancy restrictions and be required to shut down non-essential areas of the store, including sections dedicated to carpeting, flooring, furniture, garden centers, plant nurseries or paint.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1985 on: April 16, 2020, 11:17:05 AM »
Thanks badge.

In some areas of the country, I think those would be extreme measures.  But Michigan is suffering pretty badly from this thing, so I'm not sure it's all that outrageous.  

Basically, the general thrust is-- you're only allowed to go out, in order to get the very most essential things for living.  

Even the "no travel to vacation home" makes sense from the perspective of stopping non-essential travel.  I do wonder though, what about folks that are already at their vacation homes?  Are they supposed to return to their main homes?  Because that seems similarly risky.

Anyway, as I've said before, these are the kinds of things we can, and should, be doing in the short term.   But "short term" must be measured in weeks, not months, and certainly not years.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1986 on: April 16, 2020, 11:17:40 AM »
The vacation home thing is exactly what @Kris60 was complaining about... People fleeing Detroit, the most impacted area, and potentially spreading the infections with them to the less populated areas of the state. Isn't that basically done to protect the tourist areas from seeing spikes in cases?

I'll admit that the closing off of nurseries, paint, and flooring sections of the hardware store is unreasonable, because frankly if you want people to actually stay home, giving them the ability to do their home improvement projects gives them something to do without going stir crazy. I'm actually planning on doing some paint projects I've put off since Christmastime during this--luckily I already have the paint. But to be honest, you can make an argument that the rest of the hardware store is "essential", i.e. the plumbing dept might be someplace you HAVE to visit for a critical fix. The flooring and paint departments are not essential. I'm guessing that they were seeing huge spikes in traffic in those departments and this is a response to that. 

I didn't read anything about boats in her order... And a text search for "boat" or "fish" returns zero results. So I'm not sure what that's about.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1987 on: April 16, 2020, 11:19:03 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 16, 2020, 01:46:39 AM
CCP still covering it up.


https://youtu.be/a-GVcfP1zrg



should we really be surprised? CCP killed countless tens of millions of it’s own citizens during the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, they’ve been occupying Tibet for 70 years, they’ve silenced dissenters and slaughtered protestors in Hong Kong, they’ve been persecuting members of the Falun Gong religious sect for the last 20 years- throwing them in jail, killing them and harvesting their organs just because. Oh yeah not to mention they claim Taiwan and block Taiwan from joining the UN, WHO, and WTO.

Oh yeah, they also have a million plus Muslim Uighurs in concentration camps.

Why does the US do so much business with those assholes again? Time to pull out of China.
I think Mao is "credited" with being responsible for the killing of 40 million Chinese.  He makes Stalin--who had 20 million Soviet subjects killed--a piker by comparison.
Of course, this does not discredit communism.  Oh, no!  Communism has a great future and always will.  It will be great, someday.  When it is applied "properly."  Then we'll have Utopia.
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