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Cincydawg · « **Reply #1722 on:** April 13, 2020, 10:54:28 AM »

My approach is to carry the sanitizing lotion with me when out. Anytime I touch something I use it on the hands. This is toughest in a grocery store obviously.

When we walk in the park we rarely have a need to touch anything. I can open doors with an elbow.

I have come to dislike cell phones.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #1723 on:** April 13, 2020, 10:57:10 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on April 13, 2020, 10:44:33 AM

I'm guessing distancing, such as staying in your house is most effective

washing your hands is nice, but if you don't do it often enough or don't wash your cell phone or others things you hold in your hands it is flawed.

Yup I keep 2 handiwipes spritzed with either bleach or Alcohol(not both obviously) in a plastic container.For steering wheel,shifter,other knobs/levers entry door of the house,wiping down groceries etc.Gets irksome but a good habit to get into

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1724 on:** April 13, 2020, 11:00:04 AM »

Sunlight is pretty lethal to viruses. I always get a cart outside the grocery store, in part to ensure the wheels work.

I think we are very likely to see some UV lights sold for $20, but wait .... very soon on TV. The cheap ones won't have enough lumens to do anything.

The intense ones would be dangerous to eyes.

There are some professional grade ones for ambulances that probably work OK, but you can't be inside when they are used. It takes about 20 minutes apparently.

utee94 · « **Reply #1725 on:** April 13, 2020, 11:01:50 AM »

I have a package of wipes and bottle of sanitizer in each car. I use them on my hands and anything I touch, once I get into the car, including steering wheel, gear lever, keys, etc. I don't really use my phone when out and about, I've switched to a paper grocery list for the time being, which gets tossed in the trash when I'm done.

And of course wash hands thoroughly when returning home. We also wipe down with bleach wipes, every door handle, light switch, and sink handle we tend to touch, when coming into the house from outside.

utee94 · « **Reply #1726 on:** April 13, 2020, 11:06:36 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on April 13, 2020, 07:57:08 AM

Has COVID peaked in the US? I read somewhere that R naught was reduced from around 5 to 1.5 by "distancing". I wouldn't trust either figure, but one is likely lower than the other. Distancing and hand washing may be doing most of the trick here. Can we reopen things soon and recommend to seniors they stay in for a while longer to the extent possible and let folks under 50 make their own judgments?

Restaurants could reopen with tables further apart. Workers could have their T taken every day when they arrive. Hospital workers could be tested often along with folks in elderly homes (workers). Businesses might have staggered hours for being at work so folks are not bunched together while working from home.

Wash your hands, use good judgment on distancing, wear a mask if you start to feel at all ill, get outside, avoid crowded areas, gyms might need to stay closed along with large public events. Church maybe if everyone sits far apart.

I'd expect the overall national numbers to look bad today and tomorrow, as cities/counties/states tend to catch up on weekend reporting on Mondays and Tuesdays, plus this past weekend was Easter and so probably even fewer folks around for reporting. But by Wed/Thurs I'm really hoping/expecting to see some downward trends.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1727 on:** April 13, 2020, 11:26:13 AM »

I would note that hydrogen peroxide (3%) is pretty effective against pathogens, many of which are anaerobes. It doesn't stink and it won't bleach a shirt or whatever (at least not right away). It likely is less effective than soap against a virus. You can even use it as mouthwash, though it tastes metallic.

Soap is preferred against viruses. We might all find ourselves getting sick less often after this ...

utee94 · « **Reply #1728 on:** April 13, 2020, 11:53:42 AM »

Hospitals in Texas are cutting hours and laying off nurses and other staff. No elective surgeries means no revenue, and there hasn't been a surge of COVID patients either. But we're still a week or two before our predicted peak.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #1729 on:** April 13, 2020, 12:08:49 PM »

I read that the Texas highway patrol is turning cars with Louisiana license plates around at the Tx/La border

Not sure its true but if it is what strange times we live in

longhorn320 · « **Reply #1730 on:** April 13, 2020, 12:22:00 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on April 13, 2020, 11:53:42 AM

Hospitals in Texas are cutting hours and laying off nurses and other staff. No elective surgeries means no revenue, and there hasn't been a surge of COVID patients either. But we're still a week or two before our predicted peak.

As of today only 7 other states had a lower death rate per 1 M/pop then Texas

at 278 deaths I consider us lucky so far

FearlessF · « **Reply #1731 on:** April 13, 2020, 12:27:49 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on April 13, 2020, 12:08:49 PM

I read that the Texas highway patrol is turning cars with Louisiana license plates around at the Tx/La border

Not sure its true but if it is what strange times we live in

should have started this decades ago.

Austin might not be so large and might still be weird.

Just think or how clean Houston might be!

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1732 on:** April 13, 2020, 12:28:01 PM »

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

This models puts peak at two days ago. The peak in different states will of course be different, some later than this.

Atlanta thinks it's past the peak and has managed with ICUs and hospital capacity. A brand new hospital was partially rushed to handle the possible overload and we didn't need it apparently.

https://www.newsbreak.com/georgia/atlanta/news/0OgBdzrK/piedmont-hospital-opening-new-tower-early-for-coronavirus

Piedmont Atlanta Hospital’s new Marcus Tower will open four months early — on April 13 — to help treat the surge of coronavirus patients expected this month, the hospital announced Tuesday. The early opening will add three ICU and acute nursing units to Atlanta’s capacity. This will add a total of 132 additional beds, with 64 designated as critically-needed ICU beds.

utee94 · « **Reply #1733 on:** April 13, 2020, 12:28:29 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on April 13, 2020, 12:22:00 PM

As of today only 7 other states had a lower death rate per 1 M/pop then Texas

at 278 deaths I consider us lucky so far

Yeah I think he IMHE model is predicting a total of 2.7K or so, and most of those will be coming over the next 2-3 weeks. It's also possible we'll just continue under their forecasted trajectory. Wouldn't that be nice?

FearlessF · « **Reply #1734 on:** April 13, 2020, 12:29:18 PM »

this wouldn't have been nearly the episode if not for NYC

utee94 · « **Reply #1735 on:** April 13, 2020, 12:32:24 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on April 13, 2020, 12:28:01 PM

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

This models puts peak at two days ago. The peak in different states will of course be different, some later than this.

Atlanta thinks it's past the peak and has managed with ICUs and hospital capacity. A brand new hospital was partially rushed to handle the possible overload and we didn't need it apparently.

https://www.newsbreak.com/georgia/atlanta/news/0OgBdzrK/piedmont-hospital-opening-new-tower-early-for-coronavirus

Piedmont Atlanta Hospital’s new Marcus Tower will open four months early — on April 13 — to help treat the surge of coronavirus patients expected this month, the hospital announced Tuesday. The early opening will add three ICU and acute nursing units to Atlanta’s capacity. This will add a total of 132 additional beds, with 64 designated as critically-needed ICU beds.

Right. Same model has the peak in Texas as April 28th or so.

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