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most of us would like this, but it's obviously not going to happen.
Too many agendas

this was the case before the pandemic and unfortunately will be the case going forward as far as I can tell
in other words, being transparent regarding data doesn't happen with any types of data, it's not just COVID or vaccines or pandemics

it's that all data is manipulated to support agendas

This can be true, but it's not a truism.

For example, we've seen a graph of COVID cases in the UK, and then we've seen a graph of corresponding COVID deaths in the UK, over the same time period.  The data clearly show that during this most recent peak, the deaths are significantly lower as a percentage of total cases, than they were in the previous spikes.

There's no agenda in noting that.  It's simple math.

With that established, we should all be able to discuss the various potential reasons for that.  And we should be able to do it without driving any agenda or cheering for one "team" over another.  I mean, this is something that grown-ass adults should be completely capable of doing.  As far as I know, nobody on this site is 12 years old. 

You know what I'd like?

I'd like someone to explain these four graphs for me and tell me why they're so ridiculously different...

where did you get them

where did you get them

Worldometers.

because data can be manipulated

deaths can obviously be counted differently to suit your agenda

So your explanation is that you don't have to explain anything about data because you don't trust the validity of any data?

So your explanation is that you don't have to explain anything about data because you don't trust the validity of any data?

I'm saying those graphs don't explain the data in detail and the raw numbers presented can be used to promote an agenda

so these graphs show the world and not just the US?

Those graphs show death numbers for four US states. I'm wondering why they look so different. 

Those graphs contribute heavily to the below:

Oh….. so it not someone’s fault who is an elected official???  I get it now.  Wow.  So different than what was POUNDED into our heads everyday for a year, and again recently when there were spikes in “ certain” states. 

Deaths are scientifically explained?  Not just in certain locations? US Deaths are not the fault of certain elected officials anymore like they were in 2020, even though they are higher now?

Well… so convenient. 

I mean, the original point was a statistic. There are interesting reasons for said statistic. Simple, explainable ones. 

Now, if we want to talk about having two very bad months, that's interesting. I'm guessing some people will read it one way, some another, and their read on what qualifies as "media" will inform a read on it. 

But thankfully, we try to go deeper here. The world provides us chances to be aggrieved on an hourly basis, should we so choose. Often here, we choose not to (but sometimes we do), and I'm always pleased when we don't.