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847badgerfan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15792 on: October 07, 2021, 11:44:45 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15793 on: October 07, 2021, 11:48:54 AM »
DAMMIT BADGE!

I was so curious about what that was hanging on I zoomed in. This is nearly as bad as when people post that damn Bret photo. (Also funny)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15795 on: October 07, 2021, 12:03:23 PM »
That's not what any of us are getting at. I can live my life just fine wearing the mask.

The question is whether I should have the choice to do so, or whether the government should tell me I must do so.

Both 94 and I said that a mask mandate is justifiable pre-vaccine. But now that the vaccine is widely available and everyone who wants one has gotten it, the mandate is no longer justifiable.

It's not that we can't wear a mask. It's that the situation has changed now that we have the vaccine, so now it should be a personal decision (or a requirement voluntarily set by a business if they so choose).
I was responding to a comment that said we need to get back to living our lives. 

I functionally agree with you. I'm interested in the need at all (namely the protection of the involuntarily unvaccinated and questions of if the other folks get it, does that lead to a mutation), but freely admit, we might well have already crossed even that rubicon. 

It's the drama of it all. Not only the excessive lamenting over pretty mild discomfort, but the idea that this is this banner point of freedom. We are restricted all over the place. In the act of sitting in my apartment, making lunch and driving into work (which I need to do), I will be impacted by a wide range of government edicts. So many "freedoms" will be curtailed. 

Every day has onerous annoyances and government impacts on our lives life. We can say these ones have run their course without acting like this very mild thing is a catastrophe of liberty or personal comfort. (Also, we can live our lives by literally only wearing a mask when asked, and outside airports, probably be pretty fine in most cases)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15796 on: October 07, 2021, 12:14:50 PM »
You feel you simply can't live your life if you wear the mask ... are we talking more than even an hour on an average day? (I don't know if you have to wear one all day at the office. That's obviously a different thing)

(The relative "freedom" of the country in this context is a slightly different topic, but I won't delve into it right now)


That's not what any of us are getting at. I can live my life just fine wearing the mask.

The question is whether I should have the choice to do so, or whether the government should tell me I must do so.

Both 94 and I said that a mask mandate is justifiable pre-vaccine. But now that the vaccine is widely available and everyone who wants one has gotten it, the mandate is no longer justifiable.

It's not that we can't wear a mask. It's that the situation has changed now that we have the vaccine, so now it should be a personal decision (or a requirement voluntarily set by a business if they so choose).

Everything bwar said.

And the fact that you can type "relative freedom" as if there is any such thing, is a huge part of the problem right now.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15797 on: October 07, 2021, 12:41:11 PM »
It's the drama of it all. Not only the excessive lamenting over pretty mild discomfort, but the idea that this is this banner point of freedom. We are restricted all over the place. In the act of sitting in my apartment, making lunch and driving into work (which I need to do), I will be impacted by a wide range of government edicts. So many "freedoms" will be curtailed.
Yeah, I do get that. 

It's a strange hill to choose to die on...

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15798 on: October 07, 2021, 12:48:32 PM »
Yeah, I do get that.

I don't really get that.  I don't see anyone on THIS site being dramatic about it.  Many of us have said we'd rather not wear it because it's uncomfortable.  Or in badgerfan's case, it actively made him feel unwell.  And we've also said that in a post-vaccine world, the government should not be granted the privilege to abridge these particular rights.

But we're all still wearing it into private businesses that post signs saying they require it, and we're all still wearing it into government buildings in locations where it's mandated, and we're not pitching anti-mask protests and barreling over Home Depot employees that are trying to ask us to wear a mask.  We have mask mandates in my school district and my kids are wearing them for 8+ hours every single day, and I'm not down at the school board meetings raising hell and demanding change.

If you're seeing people elsewhere make a big deal out of it and protesting and whatnot, that's fine, but it's not representative of what's happening here.

If we're bringing in what's happening elsewhere, I'm seeing the majority of the drama coming from the people that just can't stand the thought of anyone NOT wearing a mask, NOT blindly following non-science-based government edicts to wear masks despite being vaccinated, and literally calling out people that don't want to wear a mask, as old-people-killers.  That's the main group where I'm seeing any drama.

But again, that's not really here on this site.

Mostly.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15799 on: October 07, 2021, 01:22:25 PM »
I love when my life is affected by other people's sliding scales of stupidity and selfishness.
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« Reply #15800 on: October 07, 2021, 01:23:36 PM »
I love when my life is affected by other people's sliding scales of stupidity and selfishness.
IF you don't want to be affected by other people's stupidity and selfishness with respect to COVID, you should make sure you have the vaccine.  And that all of your loved ones do as well.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15801 on: October 07, 2021, 01:27:15 PM »
Agreed. I've seen a little bit of drama, both ways, on this site, but not very much. Which is why I like hanging out here.

I think what BAB is getting at is that he's seeing a LOT of drama, both ways, outside of this site. Which I'd also agree with. Which is why I hate humanity in general. 


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« Reply #15802 on: October 07, 2021, 01:29:14 PM »
IF you don't want to be affected by other people's stupidity and selfishness with respect to COVID, you should make sure you have the vaccine.  And that all of your loved ones do as well.
I did.

And I get to teach in a mask all day.  It's great.  I love it.  It's a blast. 
All because the very best and brightest among us won't get a gubmit-issued Illuminati shot. 
FFS
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15803 on: October 07, 2021, 01:30:03 PM »
I don't really get that.  I don't see anyone on THIS site being dramatic about it.  Many of us have said we'd rather not wear it because it's uncomfortable.  Or in badgerfan's case, it actively made him feel unwell.  And we've also said that in a post-vaccine world, the government should not be granted the privilege to abridge these particular rights.

I get all that, and agree with 98 percent. And when I’m off work I’ll go a little deeper into the relative freedom thing because I think it’s interesting.

I think we sort of differ in a small way. I think it’s a mundane question. It seems I’m somewhat of a rarity. I get the sense others do not think this is mundane. Now, it being mundane doesn’t mean I think it should be in place. I know the government has the privilege to impede these rights, but at this point, I don’t particularly think they need to be doing so.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15804 on: October 07, 2021, 03:13:59 PM »
I did.

And I get to teach in a mask all day.  It's great.  I love it.  It's a blast. 
All because the very best and brightest among us won't get a gubmit-issued Illuminati shot. 
FFS
If the government is requiring vaccinated people to wear masks and you don't like that, take it up with the government, rather than your fellow man.  They had their chance.  Eff 'em*.


*I am of course excepting that tiny percentage of people that have a legitimate medical reason not to get the vaccine.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15805 on: October 07, 2021, 03:21:03 PM »
Anyway, it's been fun discussing this with you all, but I must now head off to Dallas to root on the good guys in burnt orange, against the toothless crimson hordes of the north.

Y'all have a great weekend.

HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!



 

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