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Many have gotten the Vax thinking they would not be required to wear a mask (CDC said so).

IMHO the only problem with Vax = no mask is not the policy, it's the enforcement. 

The official California mandate (although LA County and 7 Bay Area counties have more restrictive local measures) is that people who are vaccinated don't have to wear masks in indoor spaces, while people who are not vaccinated DO have to wear masks. 

But the problem is:

• If you require the unvaxxed to wear the mask and not the vaxxed, but nobody actually checks it, those who are unvaxxed will just not wear masks. This disparate requirement doesn't actually incentivize the unvaxxed to get the jab.
• If you require everyone to wear the mask, whether vaxxed or unvaxxed, then there is no benefit to getting the jab that would incentivize those who haven't to do so. They have to wear a mask whether they get it or not, so why get it?

So now governments are realizing that the unvaxxed are just walking around unmasked, so they want to put mask mandates on everyone again. Which punishes the vaxxed while not actually incentivizing the unvaxxed to get the shot. 

And thus the vaxxed (like me) are the ones mad about it. 

IMHO the only problem with Vax = no mask is not the policy, it's the enforcement.

The official California mandate (although LA County and 7 Bay Area counties have more restrictive local measures) is that people who are vaccinated don't have to wear masks in indoor spaces, while people who are not vaccinated DO have to wear masks.

But the problem is:

• If you require the unvaxxed to wear the mask and not the vaxxed, but nobody actually checks it, those who are unvaxxed will just not wear masks. This disparate requirement doesn't actually incentivize the unvaxxed to get the jab.
• If you require everyone to wear the mask, whether vaxxed or unvaxxed, then there is no benefit to getting the jab that would incentivize those who haven't to do so. They have to wear a mask whether they get it or not, so why get it?

So now governments are realizing that the unvaxxed are just walking around unmasked, so they want to put mask mandates on everyone again. Which punishes the vaxxed while not actually incentivizing the unvaxxed to get the shot.

And thus the vaxxed (like me) are the ones mad about it.

see thats the whole point
there should be no requiring of anything
if you get vaxed youre good to go if you dont then whatever happens to you is your own fault
we have to start living our life

Man, I must be pretty skilled.

I’ve perfected the art of living my life while also wearing a mask in many non-eating indoor situations.

not saying masks should not be worn

only that they should not be mandated by the government if you have been vaccinated

a private business is free to do what ever they want but not the government

Man, I must be pretty skilled.

I’ve perfected the art of living my life while also wearing a mask in many non-eating indoor situations.

You do whatever you like.  That's the entire point. It's a free country.

You do whatever you like.  That's the entire point. It's a free country.

You feel you simply can't live your life if you wear the mask ... are we talking more than even an hour on an average day? (I don't know if you have to wear one all day at the office. That's obviously a different thing)

(The relative "freedom" of the country in this context is a slightly different topic, but I won't delve into it right now)

You feel you simply can't live your life if you wear the mask 

That's not what any of us are getting at. I can live my life just fine wearing the mask.

The question is whether I should have the choice to do so, or whether the government should tell me I must do so. 

Both 94 and I said that a mask mandate is justifiable pre-vaccine. But now that the vaccine is widely available and everyone who wants one has gotten it, the mandate is no longer justifiable. 

It's not that we can't wear a mask. It's that the situation has changed now that we have the vaccine, so now it should be a personal decision (or a requirement voluntarily set by a business if they so choose).