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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15610 on: September 24, 2021, 10:21:29 AM »
I’m wondering if what I experienced were secondary symptoms to my system perceiving itself as overrun by the first shot. In other words, were the muscle pains and digestive discomfort not a direct, first-order reaction to the shot, but rather a compounding result of my system getting preoccupied with having to weather a flu-like aftermath from the first shot? For instance, if overexerting yourself while battling the flu, your back and muscles are likely to feel a lot worse than sore, as mine sure did over the weekend.

It's possible. They do say that having side effects from the shot is an indication that your immune system is reacting to it, which is what you want to happen. Maybe your immune system went into hyperdrive and it had secondary effects. I haven't heard of severe symptoms like that, though, so it's odd regardless.

Either way, glad you're feeling mostly better, and hope it continues to improve quickly. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15611 on: September 24, 2021, 10:23:55 AM »
My only reaction was fatigue, which of course caused me to stay in bed a lot more than normal, which could have prevented other compounding symptoms.

But I'm old.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15612 on: September 24, 2021, 11:22:39 AM »
I don't know that we can conclude that from the data.

The truth is, that the virus has evolved, and will continue to evolve.  Since Delta has become the prime variant in the USA, there's no way to know how the vaccines would have held up against the variants that were prevalent when the vaccines first reached the public.

Regardless, I don't think it matters, because the effect is the same.  We know that vaccinated individuals are more likely to contract COVID19 as time goes on.  If this is because the virus has mutated, and we can assume at this point that the virus will continue to mutate, then that implies the potential for even further decrease in efficacy. 

But I'm far less interested in protection against contracting COVID19, and far more interested in keeping people out of the hospital.  On that front, at least, the vaccines are still proving to be quite effective.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15613 on: September 24, 2021, 11:25:40 AM »
my younger brother, 56, says the shingles vaccine is much worse 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15614 on: September 24, 2021, 11:39:11 AM »
my younger brother, 56, says the shingles vaccine is much worse
Mrs. 847 got that on Sunday.

Muscle cramps/tightness. I did a lot of PT for her this AM. Couldn't walk at 7AM, and just left the hotel in heels and a sundress. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15615 on: September 24, 2021, 11:57:50 AM »
my younger brother, 56, says the shingles vaccine is much worse
I'm sure it varies, but it was the worst reaction I have even had to a vaccine, Shingrix 2.  I was in bed shivvering uncontrollably to the point I put a pen between my teeth.

It didn't last that long but it was really bad.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15616 on: September 24, 2021, 12:16:31 PM »
I hear all of that, but I can't wait. I'm 43 and I've now had shingles twice. Luckily both were minor cases, but as soon as I turn 50 I'm getting it. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15617 on: September 24, 2021, 12:17:47 PM »
I've asked some of my anti-vax buddies if they plan to get the Shingrix
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15618 on: September 24, 2021, 12:17:55 PM »
Don't wish away 7 years man. Just hope you don't get it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15619 on: September 24, 2021, 12:19:29 PM »
Don't wish away 7 years man. Just hope you don't get it.
I'm not saying I want to be 50 sooner! 

Just when I get there, I'm not going to wait very long to get that jab.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15620 on: September 24, 2021, 12:23:27 PM »
I think we all appreciate how bad shingles can be.  The shot is highly advised.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15621 on: September 24, 2021, 12:37:00 PM »
COVID-19 can also be bad
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15622 on: September 24, 2021, 01:07:35 PM »
Yes, it can, it hit my kid hard at 32.  But I think it tends to be bad less often than shingles, I'm not sure of that.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #15623 on: September 24, 2021, 01:46:33 PM »
do many folks die from Shingles?
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