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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14518 on: August 03, 2021, 10:33:54 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 03, 2021, 09:48:22 PM
That is a new take for me, and a very interesting one. People not taking the virus because they don’t think it will stop them from getting Covid?

I have heard of many people who don’t take it because they don’t care about getting Covid because they feel healthy, I’ve heard of people who won’t take the vaccine because they’re afraid of the potential long-term impacts which we do not yet know, and I’ve heard of people who won’t take the vaccine because their doctor told them they have antibodies already.

ironically, if they think the vaccine won’t prevent them from getting Covid-it turns out they are correct doesn’t it?



of course they're correct

that's not how the vaccine works
that's obviously not a logical reason to refuse the vaccine
but, they use it as a reason
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14519 on: August 03, 2021, 10:58:42 PM »
With the delta variant rapidly spreading to unvaccinated people across the country, Tyson Foods on Tuesday announced it will require all its U.S. employees to receive the COVID vaccine.

The company, which dealt with outbreaks at its meat plants during the height of the pandemic last year, said the move makes Tyson the largest U.S. food company to require COVID-19 vaccinations for its entire workforce.

The United Food and Commercial Workers, which represents over 24,000 unionized front-line workers at Tyson plants across the country, including in Dakota City, Nebraska, and Storm Lake, Iowa, immediately raised serious concerns about the company implementing the mandate "before the FDA has fully approved the vaccine."

Almost half of Tyson's 120,000 workers in the U.S. have been vaccinated and coronavirus infection rates among employees remain low, Tyson said in a statement.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14520 on: August 04, 2021, 11:58:28 AM »
Sounds like the FDA will be granting full approval to Pfizer by Labor Day. Moderna probably a month later.

That will help with some of the people who are hesitant, based on the Vax not having full approval. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14521 on: August 04, 2021, 12:07:22 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2021, 11:58:28 AM
Sounds like the FDA will be granting full approval to Pfizer by Labor Day. Moderna probably a month later.

That will help with some of the people who are hesitant, based on the Vax not having full approval.
No it won't. They'll find another excuse. 

If the 165M people in the US already vaccinated without any horror stories popping up hasn't made an impact, the FDA giving its stamp of approval won't do it.

I'd speculate on what some of those other excuses might be, but then 94 will get mad at me. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14522 on: August 04, 2021, 12:08:02 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2021, 11:58:28 AM
Sounds like the FDA will be granting full approval to Pfizer by Labor Day. Moderna probably a month later.

That will help with some of the people who are hesitant, based on the Vax not having full approval.

Maybe I'm cynical, but I think at this point, that's not likely to make any difference at all.  The people who aren't getting vaxed now, aren't going to change their minds when it's fully approved.  But I'd absolutely love to be wrong about that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14523 on: August 04, 2021, 12:09:15 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 04, 2021, 12:07:22 PM
No it won't. They'll find another excuse.

If the 165M people in the US already vaccinated without any horror stories popping up hasn't made an impact, the FDA giving its stamp of approval won't do it.

I'd speculate on what some of those other excuses might be, but then 94 will get mad at me.

You just made the list, buddy.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14524 on: August 04, 2021, 12:13:55 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 04, 2021, 12:08:02 PM
Maybe I'm cynical, but I think at this point, that's not likely to make any difference at all.  The people who aren't getting vaxed now, aren't going to change their minds when it's fully approved.  But I'd absolutely love to be wrong about that.
With full approval, some entities--states, the armed forces, et.al.--could start mandating vaccinations.  That could give some anti-vaxxers an excuse to get vaccinated.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14525 on: August 04, 2021, 12:16:57 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 04, 2021, 12:13:55 PM
With full approval, some entities--states, the armed forces, et.al.--could start mandating vaccinations.  That could give some anti-vaxxers an excuse to get vaccinated.
and violate ones civil rights
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14526 on: August 04, 2021, 12:23:26 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 04, 2021, 12:16:57 PM
and violate ones civil rights
If you call being a potential Typhoid Mary a civil right, I guess so.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14527 on: August 04, 2021, 12:47:12 PM »
Austin/Travis County hospital numbers indicate that from 7/19 to 8/1, fully vaccinated individuals accounted for 16.55% of all COVID hospitalizations.  No breakdown on age, or ICU.

16.55% is quite a bit more than I expected and hoped.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14528 on: August 04, 2021, 12:55:32 PM »
Delta seems above to break through more readily.  But as vaccination rates go up, so will break throughs.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14529 on: August 04, 2021, 01:09:16 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 04, 2021, 12:47:12 PM
Austin/Travis County hospital numbers indicate that from 7/19 to 8/1, fully vaccinated individuals accounted for 16.55% of all COVID hospitalizations.  No breakdown on age, or ICU.

16.55% is quite a bit more than I expected and hoped. 

3 percent here in Florida.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14530 on: August 04, 2021, 01:14:10 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on August 04, 2021, 12:07:22 PM
No it won't. They'll find another excuse.

If the 165M people in the US already vaccinated without any horror stories popping up hasn't made an impact, the FDA giving its stamp of approval won't do it.

I'd speculate on what some of those other excuses might be, but then 94 will get mad at me.

I choose optimism. Too much negative shit out there.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14531 on: August 04, 2021, 01:31:54 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 04, 2021, 12:47:12 PM
Austin/Travis County hospital numbers indicate that from 7/19 to 8/1, fully vaccinated individuals accounted for 16.55% of all COVID hospitalizations.  No breakdown on age, or ICU.

16.55% is quite a bit more than I expected and hoped. 

it's not great, but 83% apparently had not been vaccinated
that's really not great
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