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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14434 on: August 01, 2021, 06:03:23 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 01, 2021, 05:40:04 PM
Oh I’ve had the vaccine and I’ve also had COVID. So e en if you’ve had one or the other or both they still want us to wear masks indoors.

Ridiculous. Time to stop hiding from this and get on with your life.
exactly
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14435 on: August 01, 2021, 07:40:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 01, 2021, 05:39:44 PM
If a person already had the virus, getting the vaccine becomes more of a substantive question, in my view.
Well, according to the latest I've seen on that subject, you should wait after getting the virus before getting the vaccine.  But having the virus does not give you the level of immunity or resistance that getting vaccinated does.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14436 on: August 01, 2021, 07:43:22 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 01, 2021, 05:40:04 PM
Oh I’ve had the vaccine and I’ve also had COVID. So e en if you’ve had one or the other or both they still want us to wear masks indoors.

Ridiculous. Time to stop hiding from this and get on with your life.
Putting it in terms of fear vs. courage, or facing vs. hiding, makes civil discussion about what to do somewhat difficult.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14437 on: August 01, 2021, 08:32:35 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 01, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
Well, according to the latest I've seen on that subject, you should wait after getting the virus before getting the vaccine.  But having the virus does not give you the level of immunity or resistance that getting vaccinated does.
are you sure about that CW

You could be right but Ive not seen any data at all on this
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14438 on: August 01, 2021, 08:56:32 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 01, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
Well, according to the latest I've seen on that subject, you should wait after getting the virus before getting the vaccine.  But having the virus does not give you the level of immunity or resistance that getting vaccinated does.
My guess here is that vaccination is a very easy to thing to study. You have been vaccinated or you haven't. But vaccines simply imitate infection to stimulate an immune response. The tricky part in comparing to actual infections is that infections can range - false positives, asymptomatic infections, etc., so having some sort of baseline is trickier and makes it more difficult to give blanket statements about immunity after a positive test.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14439 on: August 01, 2021, 11:29:36 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 01, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
Well, according to the latest I've seen on that subject, you should wait after getting the virus before getting the vaccine.  But having the virus does not give you the level of immunity or resistance that getting vaccinated does.
We waited 13 months.

Having the virus gives more immunity that the vaccine gives. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14440 on: August 01, 2021, 11:49:18 PM »
So.. Yeah.



In October, Wuhan hosted the 2019 Military World Games, which drew thousands of military personnel to compete in Olympic-style events.  International press reports cite athletes claiming events were conducted without fans and that Wuhan was a "ghost town."  Athletes from several countries complained of COVID-like symptoms and four countries that sent athletes have confirmed the presence of COVID-19 in November and December of 2019, before the outbreak became public, according to the report.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14441 on: August 02, 2021, 07:01:12 AM »
Vaccination rates for SEC states seem to be somewhat less than the rest of the US.  Those states need to do better because I can see lock down clouds on the horizon that would include SEC football.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14442 on: August 02, 2021, 07:08:24 AM »
The virus seems to be behaving somewhat in a seasonal way like the flu and there are reports that the vaccines don't work as well as initially advertised at preventing infection.  Massachusetts is seeing a small upswing in infections and about one third of new cases are in those already fully vaccinated, or break through infections.

Also, vaccine effectiveness starts to drop off after 6 months.  Israel has started giving out 3rd doses.  It's still worth your while getting vaccinated since they do prevent serious disease for most.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14443 on: August 02, 2021, 07:48:40 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 01, 2021, 07:43:22 PM
Putting it in terms of fear vs. courage, or facing vs. hiding, makes civil discussion about what to do somewhat difficult.
So what’s our plan then?  Spend the next 3-5 years wearing masks, limiting social gatherings, going on lock downs, etc ?  I’ve actually known several people who got the vaccine and still caught COVID. One of them has a heart transplant which means they have a suppressed immune system. They’re fine, the vaccine did what it’s supposed to do. 

I just finished writing my uncle’s obituary for my aunt. He died of COVID last week. It’s a tough thing but him and my aunt chose not to get vaccinated. This is after losing my dad to COVID last year. I’ve had a lot of heart break due to this terrible disease but at some point you just have to face it. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14444 on: August 02, 2021, 08:26:14 AM »
I wish everyone would get the vaccine. It's the best mask available right now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14445 on: August 02, 2021, 08:45:07 AM »
the vaccine doesn't prevent COVID but, I wish everyone would get the vaccine
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14446 on: August 02, 2021, 08:49:34 AM »
It help keep people out of the hospital and lessen deaths. It can also reduce viral load, which could help lessen the spread.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #14447 on: August 02, 2021, 08:53:27 AM »
Ed Zachery

it works, it's effective

it's easy and it's free

there hasn't been any big stories of the vaccine causing problems
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