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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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ELA

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12810 on: March 10, 2021, 11:19:35 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12811 on: March 10, 2021, 11:20:29 AM »
From the LA Times article:

If L.A. County’s deaths are subtracted out of California’s total, Florida’s death rate would measure 39% higher than the state’s. It is L.A.’s vulnerabilities that drove California’s surges and pushed its total death rates so close to Florida’s.


So, if you took out Dade County from Florida's total, Florida's death rate would measure 11.5% LESS than California's.

Ifs and buts, candy and nuts.
better still just nuke LA and problem solved
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12812 on: March 10, 2021, 11:21:01 AM »
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thats great

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12813 on: March 10, 2021, 11:31:16 AM »
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Pfizer?  How did you manage to get an appointment at your age?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12814 on: March 10, 2021, 12:19:32 PM »
Which state is begging for a Federal bailout?

Hint: Not mine. Money will be coming out of MY pocket to help lockdown states.

Florida median age: 42.2
California: 36.8

Florida deaths/million: 1,486
California: 1,382

All Florida public schools are open. Companies are being formed left and right. Business is booming. Housing construction is off the charts. 1200 productive people per day are moving in.

Florida: A+
California: Epic Fail
You know what most of those old folks in Florida don't do? Live in multigenerational households with their grandkids.

California is ranked #2 in multigenerational households and #3 in households where grandparents live with grandkids.

Florida is #12 in multigenerational households and #22 in households where grandparents live with grandkids.

If you can't imagine how that would affect the risk profile for the older folks most at risk of COVID, I don't know what to say.

Florida gets an A+ for being only slightly more sh!tty than California? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12815 on: March 10, 2021, 12:28:30 PM »
Long Term Care Facilities in each state?

any stats?  Should be.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12816 on: March 10, 2021, 01:06:10 PM »
Long Term Care Facilities in each state?

any stats?  Should be.
Not sure. I don't know how big of a difference that will be, because nobody outside of NY/NJ f#^@$d up their long term care handling all that badly as far as I can tell. 

I can say from personal experience talking to people living in retirement communities (my parents in CO and my wife's dad/stepmom in SoCal), rather than "nursing homes", I've been seeing very strong protocols for social distancing, masks, etc. 

I think retirees in communities, who don't have to go to work and don't live in a home with their working children or grandchildren, are in a much safer situation re: exposure than folks in multigenerational households, despite being at high risk to complications from the virus if they contract it. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12817 on: March 10, 2021, 01:30:48 PM »
It strikes me as difficult to compare states without looking at a LOT of specific differences.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12818 on: March 10, 2021, 01:35:27 PM »
Not sure. I don't know how big of a difference that will be, because nobody outside of NY/NJ f#^@$d up their long term care handling all that badly as far as I can tell.

As I recall, Seattle had some major problems with it early on.  Nothing like NY/NJ obviously.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12819 on: March 10, 2021, 01:37:14 PM »
not sure how Iowa determines "long term care"   - nursing homes and assisted living facilities, but........

long term care residents have accounted for 2207 of the 5575 deaths in the state

not living at home with or without kids and grandkids
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12820 on: March 10, 2021, 01:46:39 PM »
It strikes me as difficult to compare states without looking at a LOT of specific differences.
That was my point. 

But some folks want to do victory laps over other states to prove their political point. 

At least the demographics of Florida vs California are more similar than trying to compare Illinois to Wisconsin and Iowa, which are LIGHT YEARS apart. So although I can point to demographic differences (such as multigenerational households due to the high cost of living here) between FL and CA, there is at least some commonality. For Illinois compared to Wisconsin and Iowa, there is NO commonality because of the dominance of Chicago on Illinois' demographics. Illinois would be better compared with FL, NY, GA or CA, other states with megalopolises. 

It's also not particularly fair to compare "everything is open" Florida to "locked down gulag" California... Orange County CA is open and has been for months. Our county leaders basically announced that they weren't going to enforce any of the lockdown orders. Restaurants, barbers / hair salons, nail salons, etc have remained open. Kids have been in school since the fall. One of my local breweries forces you to buy a bag of chips to be considered a "restaurant" rather than a bar, but they're open. Now, that's not all of California, of course, but it's 3.1M people. 

So yeah, sure, Florida can pat themselves on the back for being 25th in the nation in Deaths/1M people... Great. There's 50 states, so that's a 50% grade. Giving them an A+ for their handling is grading on one HELL of curve. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12821 on: March 10, 2021, 01:46:55 PM »
Pfizer?  How did you manage to get an appointment at your age?
He was going to sue their ass for age discrimination
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12822 on: March 10, 2021, 01:56:32 PM »
That was my point.

But some folks want to do victory laps over other states to prove their political point.


Like... for example... the author of the article you posted...? :)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12823 on: March 10, 2021, 02:10:02 PM »
Like... for example... the author of the article you posted...? :)

I'm also talking about much more than the China Virus here. I'm talking about social, mental, economic and all the other impacts that this virus has affected. Drug addiction is up. Suicides are up. Murders are up. Kids are being left behind. All of this for lockdowns that don't work. 
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