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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1246 on: April 04, 2020, 07:21:04 PM »
I've said this for the past couple decades, ever since I became involved in high tech manufacturing.

Mexico has tremendous natural resources.  I'm not saying that helping Mexico develop would be cheap, or easy, but just imagine committing all of the resources we've dedicated to the war on drugs, or border walls, into developing the infrastructure in Mexico and other Latin American countries instead.

Yes, let's imagine it.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1247 on: April 04, 2020, 07:21:26 PM »
Yes. Send in US special ops to bust them up. US special ops could wipe out the cartels in a weekend.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1248 on: April 04, 2020, 07:30:40 PM »
Anyone on this board that doesn't have FoxNews blaring on the TV 24/7 here is odd.
Anyone who watches MSNBC, Fox News, or CNN 24/7 is odd imo. Waste of time to try and get news from Comcast, AT&T, or what’s left of 21st Century Fox after Disney bought the film and other tv assets. 

If you’ll notice, 90% of the media in this country is owned by 4-5 publicly traded gigantic multinational conglomerates. If you’re expecting to get unbiased, truth from anyone of these billion dollar publicly traded companies, you must be a bit off. 

Cable news is all about tv ratings and selling advertising. When Obama was in office and Hannity was attacking him daily for being born in Africa or being a secret Muslim he had the #1 rated news cable show. When Trump’s in office and that guy Rachel Maddow attacks Trump for being a Russian puppet or getting peed on by Russian hookers, he’s got the #1 rated cable show. All these people on tv are clowns, and none of them are going to tell you the truth. The few anchors that do speak truth get fired, and the guests that speak truth never get asked to come back on the shows.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1249 on: April 04, 2020, 07:31:32 PM »
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How do you think Colombia got rid of Pablo Escobar? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1250 on: April 04, 2020, 07:46:00 PM »
You're right CIA & Black Opts helped opposition forces maybe even did the deed
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1251 on: April 04, 2020, 08:01:03 PM »
The problems in Mexico run deeper than drugs.  If all drugs were legalized tomorrow, or in some other way disappeared as a source of massive profits, then the cartels would just move on and co-opt some more legitimate form of business.

Heck, the cartels did it with LIMES of all things, just a couple of years ago.

The Italian mafia moved into legitimate business to protect its interests, the Lebanese mafia has been doing it in various places in the USA for years, and the cartels/Mexican mafia are involved in plenty of legitimate businesses on both sides of the border as well.

I didn't say it would be easy or cheap, but I do believe if we committed all of the resources we're currently expending on the war on drugs or building futile walls and such, on building up the Mexican infrastructure, it would be mutually beneficial, almost immediately.




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1252 on: April 04, 2020, 08:05:35 PM »
F the CCP. Just to redirect here. That is all.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1253 on: April 04, 2020, 08:13:25 PM »

Heck, the cartels did it with LIMES of all things, just a couple of years ago.
Ohh, wait.  Pre-Corona....this is where it all started!  :singing:
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1254 on: April 04, 2020, 08:13:45 PM »
How do you think Colombia got rid of Pablo Escobar?
They asked nicely?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1255 on: April 04, 2020, 08:16:59 PM »
Ehhh, the entitlement programs people bitch about are part of the discretionary budget, too.  The ones everyone wants to keep are what you're referring to here. 
And thanks for changing it to GDP, which has nothing to do with what I said.
No, they are not.  Social Security is a prime example.  Its expenditures are based on how many eligible recipients there are and cannot be cut without changing the law.
I didn't change your point about the military budget to GDP, I compared it to historical expenditures using a consistent metric--percentage of GDP.  I could have used percentage of the federal budget and it would have made a chart that supported my point even more strongly.  You provided no comparison to anything or any context whatsoever.  You just threw out your opinion that it was bloated and indefensible and left it at that.
You probably can't see it, but your response here is exactly why utee gave you a sarcastic "Yes, Afro, you are always right and never wrong" sort of response earlier.  You can't ever acknowledge--or at least I have never seen you acknowledge--that any comment you have made might be less than perfectly clear, less than complete, based on opinion rather than fact, lacking context, bigoted, or snarky.  When, in fact, most posters (including me) make one or more of those mistakes reasonably often.  But you don't admit that you ever do.  So utee's snarky comment to you was nothing more or less than throwing back at you the self-opinion you present.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1256 on: April 04, 2020, 08:24:27 PM »
They asked nicely?
Nope. He terrorized Colombia far worse than any cartel has terrorized Mexico, and he had more money and power and influence over his country than any cartel in Mexico could ever dream of having- and the only way Colombia got him to go on the run and eventually got rid of him was because they had US black ops track him down and put a bullet in his head. 

If Mexican govt wanted to, they could let US black op forces in and give them the authority to hunt, track, and kill cartel leaders. Mexican leadership has to want to let the US in. They don’t. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1257 on: April 04, 2020, 08:42:29 PM »
Ohh, wait.  Pre-Corona....this is where it all started!  :singing:
Put the lime in the coconut. 


I'd still like to know how the F you can stick a lime into a coconut.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1258 on: April 04, 2020, 08:51:12 PM »
Social Security is a prime example. Its expenditures are based on how many eligible recipients there are and cannot be cut without changing the law.
Social Security is not an “entitlement” program. It’s an earned benefits program. Those who claim the benefit, paid into it on every single paycheck they got while they were working, as did their employer. Social security has brought in far more money than it pays out in benefits ever since Reagan raised the payroll tax.

There was a nearly $3 trillion surplus. What happened to the surplus. Congress spent it. 

Easy way to refill the coffers- remove the $128,000 cap on payroll tax. 

Another easy way to fix it. Stop letting Congress spend that money. Set up a sovereign wealth fund and invest in stocks and real estate, or loan money to banks or Fortune 500 companies and charge them interest.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1259 on: April 04, 2020, 09:21:30 PM »
This got weird. 

Today I got pizza from a food truck that I really like. I’m getting local take out about every other day, though I am considering going back to back for a breakfast burrito tomorrow.

I also am definitely messing up my county‘s numbers about distance traveled because I keep going for long walks by a river near my house.

 

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