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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11382 on: December 11, 2020, 10:21:52 AM »
Mask mandate won't make any difference because there is no real enforcement of any mandate for 90% of the country.  

I just found out that one of my acquaintances from my hometown lost his dad to COVID.  He was 68.  This makes 5 people, including my own dad, who I personally know that lost their lives due to COVID.  3 of the people I know lived within 1/4 mile of my dad.  Bare in mind that I live in an extremely small town, about 3K people and throw in another 3k from around the surrounding country side.  

Have you lost anybody or personally known anybody who died from COVID?  My mom's cousin is in the hospital on a ventilator right now but he's steady and expected to survive last I heard.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11383 on: December 11, 2020, 10:42:33 AM »
I know several people who had the virus but so far no one has passed from it 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11384 on: December 11, 2020, 10:43:49 AM »
Same here. No known deaths in my circle.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11385 on: December 11, 2020, 10:50:22 AM »
'We need help,' says Stockholm healthcare chief as COVID fills intensive care wards | Reuters
'We need help,' says Stockholm healthcare chief as COVID fills intensive care wards | Reuters

Sweden apparently is nearing a cliff, not good obviously, but they are still lower than their previous peak.

If we simplify this to deaths per capita (726 per million), they are still lower than that in France, Spain, Italy, and the UK.  They are quite a bit higher than Denmark, Finland, and Norway of course. 

Georgia is at 939 per million.  NY and NJ are more than double that figure.
If only per capita took into account the physical density of the populations...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11386 on: December 11, 2020, 11:04:10 AM »
Stockholm metro area has about 2.4 million people, almost a quarter of the population of Sweden.  I imagine density is about like that of other Euro cities.

Atlanta metro area is about 6 million, about 60% of the state population, probably more dispersed than many other metro areas of similar size because there are no geographic boundaries.

I have no idea how one could somehow couple some stat on population density with deaths per capita sensibly.  Density in nursing homes is obviously very high.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11387 on: December 11, 2020, 11:34:33 AM »
With four months of work in Portland finally ending last Friday, I detoured through Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon, and North-South through Nevada, before spending a few days in the Phoenix area.

Portland has been under off-and-on shutdowns for months - no bars, salons, breweries, day cares, gyms. And the shutdown continued through Washington State and Nevada, save for the gaming floors in Vegas where I spent a night at the Flamingo. Everything else about Vegas - the pools, nightclubs (DJing, bottle service), shows, buffets - is shutdown.

Then into Arizona, Phoenix, Scottsdale, and Tempe couldn't've been more opposite in terms of business. Everything was open, mostly with no seating capacity limits. The open-air brunch spots lining Scottsdale BLVD were packed. College bars and taco shops in Tempe packed. Malls open across Phoenix. Everybody was wearing their masks, but in general bartenders and waitresses weren't militant about enforcing masks like what I ran into in Portland if I took one step away from the table, if things were even open in Portland. Lots of Texas and California license plates in Scottsdale, likely people enjoying what life was like before the pandemic shut down the economy last April.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11388 on: December 11, 2020, 11:41:38 AM »
I have known at least 20 people that have had COVID and there has been no deaths. Two of them have previous conditions that were known co-morbidities. 

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« Reply #11389 on: December 11, 2020, 12:35:37 PM »
With four months of work in Portland finally ending last Friday, I detoured through Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon, and North-South through Nevada, before spending a few days in the Phoenix area.

Portland has been under off-and-on shutdowns for months - no bars, salons, breweries, day cares, gyms. And the shutdown continued through Washington State and Nevada, save for the gaming floors in Vegas where I spent a night at the Flamingo. Everything else about Vegas - the pools, nightclubs (DJing, bottle service), shows, buffets - is shutdown.

Then into Arizona, Phoenix, Scottsdale, and Tempe couldn't've been more opposite in terms of business. Everything was open, mostly with no seating capacity limits. The open-air brunch spots lining Scottsdale BLVD were packed. College bars and taco shops in Tempe packed. Malls open across Phoenix. Everybody was wearing their masks, but in general bartenders and waitresses weren't militant about enforcing masks like what I ran into in Portland if I took one step away from the table, if things were even open in Portland. Lots of Texas and California license plates in Scottsdale, likely people enjoying what life was like before the pandemic shut down the economy last April.
Oregon has 21,300 cases/1M population and 266 deaths/1M population. 

Arizona has 54,201 cases/1M population and 995 deaths/1M population. 

So Arizona has about a 2.5x per capita higher case rate and 3.75x per capita higher death rate. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11390 on: December 11, 2020, 12:39:40 PM »
Demographics play a part too, particularly on the death numbers. Florida is also high there, at 912/Million.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11391 on: December 11, 2020, 01:03:48 PM »
Arizona has bad numbers because of the governor.  I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #11392 on: December 11, 2020, 02:20:26 PM »
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« Reply #11393 on: December 11, 2020, 02:21:31 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11394 on: December 11, 2020, 02:25:02 PM »
In defense of Belgium, I read on back they had a different way of accounting for deaths that for whatever reasons made the figure a lot higher.

North Korea also appears to have a different way of accounting.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11395 on: December 11, 2020, 02:36:37 PM »
Belgium makes the best beer in the world.  They can't be expected to pay too much attention to the Rona.

 

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