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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11368 on: December 11, 2020, 05:44:27 AM »
Hilton Head had a posted "mask mandate", ostensibly everywhere, signs up all over about it.  The mask wearing was no different than it is here.  Folks INSIDE a public building wore masks, outside they didn't.  Hardly anyone walking on the beach had a mask on, or walking outside anywhere.

One problem with such an apparently universal mandate is it makes little real sense and leads to widespread public resistance, not because of politics, but because it's unenforceable and makes little sense.  It should read that you need one any time you're inside a building with other people not part of your immediate and outside if you can't maintain distance, duh.

I cannot imagine a cop would write anyone up for not wearing a masking in some parking lot going to their car.

I really don't think some universal mask mandate is a good idea.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11369 on: December 11, 2020, 06:39:48 AM »
'We need help,' says Stockholm healthcare chief as COVID fills intensive care wards | Reuters
'We need help,' says Stockholm healthcare chief as COVID fills intensive care wards | Reuters

Sweden apparently is nearing a cliff, not good obviously, but they are still lower than their previous peak.

If we simplify this to deaths per capita (726 per million), they are still lower than that in France, Spain, Italy, and the UK.  They are quite a bit higher than Denmark, Finland, and Norway of course.  

Georgia is at 939 per million.  NY and NJ are more than double that figure.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11370 on: December 11, 2020, 08:40:14 AM »
Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report | CDC

Some related good news, so far anyway.


  • Flu activity is unusually low at this time but may increase in the coming months.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11371 on: December 11, 2020, 08:42:22 AM »



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« Reply #11372 on: December 11, 2020, 08:52:11 AM »
I'm thinking more people got the Flu shot this year than in years past, and that the shot is effective.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11373 on: December 11, 2020, 09:11:45 AM »
I think its also very likely folks just dont want to go to the doctor this year
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11374 on: December 11, 2020, 09:13:45 AM »
It's likely a combination of things, including better hygiene and mask wearing and distancing and reduced Asian travel.

Hopefully the vaccine is better targeted this year.




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11375 on: December 11, 2020, 09:16:44 AM »
I don't know anyone who has had a "cold" recently. Has there been a "cold" season?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11376 on: December 11, 2020, 09:22:44 AM »
I don't think there is any effort to track cold prevalence, even the flu tracking is a calculation, not a measurement.

Most folks don't see a doctor with a cold (some do of course).

I have not had a cold yet, I probably get 1-2 a winter.  (I'm not counting what I had in February.)

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« Reply #11377 on: December 11, 2020, 09:28:19 AM »
This is incredible. I wonder how many more there are like this. 300K cases from one conference in Boston. 71K of those ended up in Florida!!

Boston conference in February linked to as many as 300,000 coronavirus cases worldwide | TheHill
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11378 on: December 11, 2020, 09:36:02 AM »
I discovered the cause of colds

its called "children"

when my kids were growing up I used to get 2 to 3 colds a year

now they are out of the house my wife and I have not had a cold in 5 years
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11379 on: December 11, 2020, 09:37:46 AM »
How many conferences were happening in the US at the same time?  Why would one of them be singular, or unusual, in terms of spread, aside from a conference that simply had no infected attendee?

And aside from some conference, we had "business as usual" congregations, meetings, churches, hotels, bars, concerts, you name it, not to mention cruise ships etc.

Atlanta is a major convention city, and no doubt held major conventions in Jan/Feb as well (none since March).  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11380 on: December 11, 2020, 10:08:51 AM »
My main fear again is about hospital capacity.  If that starts to get exceeded, we'll have to have more serious interventions, I think.  Otherwise, we do what we're doing and get the vaccine out there asap, which is happening.

I "hear" that hospitals here are shutting down elective surgeries again.  That would make sense as it frees up nurses and orthopedic MDs and beds for COVID use as needed.  It is at least some excess capacity that can be used.

The numbers are not good.
I think we're down to 4% ICU capacity in Orange County.

Were going to be at the stage of patients who otherwise might live dying due to lack of available care soon if this continues. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11381 on: December 11, 2020, 10:18:35 AM »
Georgia Hospital Bed/Ventilator Capacity (arcgis.com)

Georgia in patient bed use is about 85% and appears to be heading higher.  I see differing stats on ICU usage, the one below may be wrong.

Georgia has about 2,909 ICU beds. Based on best available data, we estimate that 72% (2,080) are currently occupied by non-COVID patients. Of the 829 ICU beds remaining, we estimate 882 are needed by COVID cases, or >100% of available beds.

COVID-19 patients fill Georgia hospitals as cases soar (fox5atlanta.com)

 

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