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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11004 on: November 25, 2020, 08:48:30 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2020, 07:00:36 AM
France is WAY down, and her neighbors appear to have peaked and be trending down (not as fast as France).

A near full lock down with schools remaining open appears to be working in France.  SO, perhaps schools are not the/a major means of transmission.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11005 on: November 25, 2020, 08:49:55 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 25, 2020, 08:48:30 AM
perhaps

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11006 on: November 25, 2020, 08:55:20 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 25, 2020, 01:37:06 AM
I see a lot of optional travel here.
I’m sure that is true, probably from US citizens and non-US citizens into the country. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11007 on: November 25, 2020, 09:00:17 AM »
I don't think it's "science" that says the infection rate is down a lot in France while noting they did not close their schools.  It's just data.  I suppose one would think of statistics as probably being a science, perhaps maybe.

What is the probability of that?

I have not calculated it Captain.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11008 on: November 25, 2020, 09:04:08 AM »
Well, get on with it already.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11009 on: November 25, 2020, 09:30:49 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2020, 09:00:17 AM
I don't think it's "science" that says the infection rate is down a lot in France while noting they did not close their schools.  It's just data.  I suppose one would think of statistics as probably being a science, perhaps maybe.

What is the probability of that?

I have not calculated it Captain.
I can't speak for France, but the "science" part of this virus not transmitting much in schools, is associated with children's viral load and capability of spreading it, versus that of adults.  There's also the science of mask-wearing and social distancing that is occurring within the school walls, and which appears to be helping.

Since so many school districts are currently pondering maintaining online-only after the Tday holiday, you'd think that the mainstream media would be trumpeting loudly, the low risk of kids being in school in-person.  I find it quite curious that they are not running these stories 24/7 right now. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11010 on: November 25, 2020, 09:34:55 AM »
I obviously try and draw conclusions from how other countries experience this pandemic, so when I see France keeping schools open AND showing a dramatic decline in  reported cases, I tentatively conclude schools are not a major transmission vector.  They have shuttered bars, restaurants, barber shops, gyms, and the like, and you need permission to move around more than 1 km from your house.  It's a pretty severe lockdown, other than schools, and it appears to be working, somewhat to my surprise.

The economic cost is obviously severe.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11011 on: November 25, 2020, 09:39:02 AM »
I'm not familiar with "viral load", but my doc said school kids aren't spreading it, in part because if they do have the virus, they are asymptomatic.

He also said other "young" people that are asymptomatic are not spreaders.  20 year olds
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11012 on: November 25, 2020, 09:40:22 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2020, 09:34:55 AM
I obviously try and draw conclusions from how other countries experience this pandemic, so when I see France keeping schools open AND showing a dramatic decline in  reported cases, I tentatively conclude schools are not a major transmission vector.  They have shuttered bars, restaurants, barber shops, gyms, and the like, and you need permission to move around more than 1 km from your house.  It's a pretty severe lockdown, other than schools, and it appears to be working, somewhat to my surprise.

The economic cost is obviously severe.
France is a good source of data, but we have a better one right here at home.  In-school transmission is nearly non-existent within the Austin-area school districts.  What few cases have occurred, have generally been related to after-school gatherings of children engaging in risky behaviors together.  And even that is almost entirely at the high school level, there are very few cases occurring in middle school and only 2 all year in our elementary school of 600 kids.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11013 on: November 25, 2020, 09:44:10 AM »
yup, there are many folks out there that would LOVE to show that elementary schools and/or high schools are causing a huge spread, but it's just not the case
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11014 on: November 25, 2020, 09:52:15 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 25, 2020, 06:55:52 AM
I left a State full of negligent parents.

Do you really want the government to be your parent?

You could help reverse the wave from California to Arizona!! Do it! Move to LA.

Yes, they actually view the govt as perental figueres. :57:

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11015 on: November 25, 2020, 10:17:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2020, 08:11:33 AM
The receptionist at physical therapy has plans to fly to Cleveland today or tomorrow.  She overheard me and the therapist talking about travel and how neither of us would get on a plane short of an emergency (the idea of a red eye is a good one).  She piped up and said "Y'all are scaring me now."
Across from my wife's office, there's an urgent care in the building across the parking lot. There was a line of people stretched halfway around the building waiting to get their rapid-response COVID tests so they could get on airplanes.

This'll end well. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11016 on: November 25, 2020, 10:43:06 AM »
parental figures in Government would rather close schools than airlines

brilliant!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #11017 on: November 25, 2020, 10:51:54 AM »
I need a COVID test before baseball camp, and within five days, and the turn around time is said to be 2-4 business days.  Camp starts on a Tuesday.
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