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I asked a guy I know through homebrew circles who is an American expat in Wuhan what was really happening over there. I have little reason to believe official numbers coming out of China, but wanted at least to hear from someone who is local.

Take it for what you will; I can't think of any reason he'd be lying to me...

Well, none of our manufacturing partners are in Wuhan, so I can't speak to that.

But there are major shortages of subtier components that are mostly Chinese, as well as incredibly slow production, for our products right now, from manufacturing lines all over the rest of China.  

And I think it's safe to say that "5,000" is a wildly unlikely number in a country of 1.5B.

speaking of vaccines

https://nypost.com/2020/11/22/warp-speed-advisor-expects-covid-19-vaccine-to-ship-mid-december/

So are you saying American businesses are choosing to make the same goods more expensively? 

I was under the suspicion that there are laws and parameters in place that make it so, while China lacks such restraints.

You know, suicidal 8 year olds making our shoes and such.

That would be great if accurate,but has the message been edited?Or perhaps the earlier waves wiped out numbers unannounced - hard to say or what to believe

Well, none of our manufacturing partners are in Wuhan, so I can't speak to that.

But there are major shortages of subtier components that are mostly Chinese, as well as incredibly slow production, for our products right now, from manufacturing lines all over the rest of China. 

And I think it's safe to say that "5,000" is a wildly unlikely number in a country of 1.5B.

I doubt the message was edited... It was a private message through another forum, hosted (I believe) in the US. But as I said, I can't be sure whether to trust it. 

That said, I completely agree that I don't trust the 5K number for a second. The first wave could have been much higher than that. What interests me is more what is happening now though. 

The only think that could square the circle is they've got truly authoritarian lockdown controls [which of all countries, China is willing and capable of that] and they actually got it under control initially, AND they have an extremely robust contact tracing capability, AND they were initially dealing with the L strain and have successfully prevented importation of the G and its sub-variant strains from Europe... MAYBE they're doing ok.

But that wouldn't really help to understand why utee's supply chains are disrupted so badly. If people can actually go to work, it shouldn't be a labor issue. 

Just trying to piece together the puzzle, while being somewhat in the dark and unable to believe what I see re: the pieces... 

I doubt the message was edited... It was a private message through another forum, hosted (I believe) in the US. But as I said, I can't be sure whether to trust it.

It would be subject to sensorship if mailed inside of the so called People's Republic.There you have freedom of speech - in the West you have freedom after speech......for the most part

Can we skip this stupid bickering? We all know who started it, and yet everyone's rushing to take the bait.

Whether or not we can trust the CCP's self-reported COVID case and death numbers is relevant in this thread.

Any other liars are not.

Speaking of censorship, this thread is apolitical and meant to be about COVID.

sorry I contributed to a lot of that crap

I should know better

Ive always been a type A personality and sometimes it jumps out