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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10892 on: November 22, 2020, 08:59:23 AM »
One of the Georgia candidates for US Senate tested positive and then inconclusive.

I guess these folks have to be around a lot of people every day, but politicians seem to be catching it a lot and you'd think they'd be very cautious.

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« Reply #10893 on: November 22, 2020, 09:01:12 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 22, 2020, 08:43:32 AM
I had a cushy job in the private sector.  Large companies start to resemble governments.

And when I left, they had two people replace me.  I still giggle about that, they even promoted one of them.
Big corporate, sure. They are like government - minus the guarantees.

My brothers work for Allstate. Allstate just ran through a bunch of layoffs. They were worried.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10894 on: November 22, 2020, 09:05:06 AM »
In my situation, I was waiting around for an offer to retire, it was lucrative.  I probably would have left in another year or two on my own with no offer.

I was miserable at work only consoled by having a decent paycheck.  Anyway, I'm comfortable now, and trying to avoid COVID and hoping the vaccine is available soonish.

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« Reply #10895 on: November 22, 2020, 09:16:36 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10896 on: November 22, 2020, 09:29:57 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 22, 2020, 09:01:12 AM
Big corporate, sure. They are like government - minus the guarantees.

My brothers work for Allstate. Allstate just ran through a bunch of layoffs. They were worried.
My company just performed a round of layoffs as well. The business was great in Q1, terrible in Q2 and Q3, and looking up in Q4.  But this was a long-term move, looking way down the line.  Supply chains are a complete mess right now and I don't see it getting better for another 9-12 months out.  Even huge, well-situated companies with vast reserves of cash like we have, are going to struggle to weather the coming storm.

2020 was just the beginning.  From a financial perspective, 2021 could be a lot worse.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10897 on: November 22, 2020, 10:18:19 AM »
I asked a guy I know through homebrew circles who is an American expat in Wuhan what was really happening over there. I have little reason to believe official numbers coming out of China, but wanted at least to hear from someone who is local. 

Take it for what you will; I can't think of any reason he'd be lying to me...


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I have experienced nothing that would indicate that the official story is anything other than true. My son's kindergarten closed for a couple days last week... for a chicken pox outbreak among the students. Naturally, there are fears that we'll have another wave, but my school has been in session face-to-face since September (which is when the semester starts every year), and while there are occasional flashes of worry like the government telling the school that we are not to have in-person parents' meetings this semester, it's almost entirely business as usual. The green code tracking system is still nominally in place and will definitely help if we have another wave, but I've been asked to scan my code once in the last month, going to a hospital to pick up a prescription.

As for preventing another wave (or preventing it from getting bad again), we've got the green code system in place, anyone who goes to the hospital with a fever gets a mandatory COVID test, and we've got experience with managing the shutdown - from food distribution to work-at-home and whatever else needs to happen. I can say with complete candor that I think Wuhan, in spite (and perhaps because) of being the epicenter of the outbreak, is one of the best-prepared places on the planet to fight or prevent another wave of COVID.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10898 on: November 22, 2020, 10:36:47 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 22, 2020, 09:29:57 AM


2020 was just the beginning.  From a financial perspective, 2021 could be a lot worse.


assuming the vaccine is available in 2 to 3 months Im not nearly as pessimistic 

By June there will be a huge rebound underway 

while it wont be all the way back to normal we should be much better off financially

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10899 on: November 22, 2020, 10:54:10 AM »
will the vaccine be available in China?

Where the products are produced
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10900 on: November 22, 2020, 10:59:02 AM »

Yes it has been for quite some time that's why there have been only 5,000 deaths in a country of over 1Bil.Don't believe me ask the CCP
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10901 on: November 22, 2020, 11:10:58 AM »
Without an effective vaccine program, I shudder to think how bad this could get.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10902 on: November 22, 2020, 11:38:27 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 22, 2020, 10:59:02 AM
Yes it has been for quite some time that's why there have been only 5,000 deaths in a country of over 1Bil.Don't believe me ask the CCP
no sarcasm tags?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10903 on: November 22, 2020, 11:47:17 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 22, 2020, 10:54:10 AM
will the vaccine be available in China?

Where the products are produced
Im sure the vaccine will be shared with any country requesting it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10904 on: November 22, 2020, 11:50:49 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on November 22, 2020, 10:36:47 AM
assuming the vaccine is available in 2 to 3 months Im not nearly as pessimistic

By June there will be a huge rebound underway

while it wont be all the way back to normal we should be much better off financially


I make no such assumption but even if it is available in 3 months, it won't be widespread enough to avoid mass shutdowns of production lines.  I'm currently seeing it from our Chinese vendors, their production has slowed to a crawl.  That's not going to change in the next 6 months even with a vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10905 on: November 22, 2020, 11:56:30 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 22, 2020, 10:18:19 AM
I asked a guy I know through homebrew circles who is an American expat in Wuhan what was really happening over there. I have little reason to believe official numbers coming out of China, but wanted at least to hear from someone who is local.

Take it for what you will; I can't think of any reason he'd be lying to me...
That would be great if accurate,but has the message been edited?Or perhaps the earlier waves wiped out numbers unannounced - hard to say or what to believe
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