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Honestbuckeye

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #546 on: December 05, 2023, 08:10:08 AM »
Here is what the NCAA factual site predicted before the committee injected their prognostication and opinion. 


https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-12-02/college-football-playoff-rankings-predictions-what-final-cfp-top-25-could-
College Football Playoff rankings predictions: Final Top 25 projections
These predictions are as of the conclusion of the ACC Championship Saturday, December 2. 
  • Michigan (13-0) | LW: 2 — Michigan won the Big Ten with another ranked win. If a win over Oregon the first time wasn’t enough to get Washington over Michigan, then it won’t be enough in a second go around.
  • Washington (13-0) | LW: 3 — Washington won the final Pac-12 title for the conference as we know it. The Huskies finish undefeated and will be in the playoff as the second seed.
  • Florida State (13-0) | LW: 4 — Florida State is an undefeated champion from the ACC. The Seminoles defense sent a statement in the ACC Championship game and the Seminoles are in.
  • Texas (12-1) | LW: 7 — Texas won the Big 12 title boosting its CFP odds. Thanks to a head-to-head win over SEC Champion Alabama, the Longhorns are in.
  • Alabama (12-1) | LW: 8 — The SEC misses out of the College Football Playoff for the first time because Alabama lost to Texas head-to-head. 
  • Georgia (12-1) | LW: 1 — Georgia has to rank behind Alabama in these rankings, but the Bulldogs will remain above the Buckeyes after a 12-0 start.
  • Ohio State (11-1) | LW: 6 —With Texas’ win, Ohio State’s College Football Playoff hopes disappeared. The Buckeyes miss out without a conference championship.
  • Oregon (11-2) | LW: 5 — Oregon falls to No. 8 after losing another close game to Washington. After the loss, the Ducks will be the top-ranked two-loss team.
  • Missouri (10-2) | LW: 9 — Missouri stays put after not playing in the postseason.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #547 on: December 05, 2023, 08:16:09 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 05, 2023, 07:56:14 AM
Exactly. OHIO STATE would be a couple point favorite over both Washington, and Texas, and probably Alabama too.  let’s put them in
Umm,no they would tee off on  our QB if he hadn't already portaled.But then again maybe Keinholz or Brown were better options all along - so maybe
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #548 on: December 05, 2023, 08:18:08 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 05, 2023, 08:16:09 AM
Umm,no they would tee off on  our QB if he hadn't already portaled.But then again maybe Keinholz or Brown were better options all along - so maybe
Vegas doesn’t agree with you.   But that doesn’t mean your wrong. 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #549 on: December 05, 2023, 08:20:26 AM »
There were probably a dozen teams that didn’t get in the playoff last year that would have been a Vegas favorite over TCU.

People obsess over the term “best.”  They take it too literally.  They are looking for the best teams based on actual results.

Georgia or Ohio St would be favored over Washington or Texas on a neutral field but they didn’t have results that warranted putting them in the playoff.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #550 on: December 05, 2023, 08:23:17 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on December 05, 2023, 08:20:26 AM
There were probably a dozen teams that didn’t get in the playoff last year that would have been a Vegas favorite over TCU.
Of course they didn't use "my method", which I stated was a fact.  I'm saying it is the best way, IN MY OPINION, to assess the four best teams, if indeed you want that.

A 2 TD dog has a very small chance of winning the NC.  TCU showed what happens in that situation.  They have a 1 in 6 chance of winning one game.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #551 on: December 05, 2023, 08:35:15 AM »
What were the Bengals chances last Night? Asking for a friend and 33 others that got knocked out of the pool
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #552 on: December 05, 2023, 08:36:02 AM »
what about liberty?  where's the run itt for these titans of the east?  i've checked the data, no one's proven they can be slain.  perhaps no one can.  after extracting the fraudulent tide someone give utee the bad news.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #553 on: December 05, 2023, 08:40:21 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2023, 08:23:17 AM
Of course they didn't use "my method", which I stated was a fact.  I'm saying it is the best way, IN MY OPINION, to assess the four best teams, if indeed you want that.

A 2 TD dog has a very small chance of winning the NC.  TCU showed what happens in that situation.  They have a 1 in 6 chance of winning one game.
Fair enough, but that sounds a little different than what you were saying earlier.

If you are saying Vegas lines is a good indicator the 4 best teams in the country I agree.  But earlier you said Vegas making FSU a 14 point dog to UGA tells you FSU shouldn’t be in the playoff.  I don’t agree with that.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #554 on: December 05, 2023, 08:43:30 AM »
Smells like a dead horse in here
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #555 on: December 05, 2023, 08:47:30 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 05, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
Smells like a dead horse in here


Fro is a little gassy. 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #556 on: December 05, 2023, 08:49:54 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 05, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
Smells like a dead horse in here
Naw,floor of a TaxiCab maybe
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #557 on: December 05, 2023, 08:52:51 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 05, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
Smells like a dead horse in here
No shit.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #558 on: December 05, 2023, 08:57:05 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2023, 08:09:17 AM
To me, "best team" means a team that more often would defeat any other team.  How can one assess that?  Eye test?  Of course.

One could also look at the Vegas assessment as an indicator, in MY VIEW, the best one available.
Vegas uses computer programs, like everyone else. SP+ typically beats the spread, and I've heard FPI does, too, though I don't pay as much attention to that one. SP+ does not take injuries into account (or opt outs). Vegas does. Still loses though.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #559 on: December 05, 2023, 08:59:08 AM »
Vegas just wants balance. 
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