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SuperMario

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #518 on: December 04, 2023, 08:28:52 PM »
But they...won. Hence the whole part about the games mattering. You say the offense didn't look good enough. But so what - this isn't the offense contest. It's the "who gets the most points" contest. That's why they just threw the games in the toilet and instead used their imaginations.
Exactly!! Dude I seriously agree with almost everything you post nowadays!

Let’s be honest, the Michigan offense looked mediocre. They lost their center and their qb has been hurt.. so maybe we should just count them out too because they aren’t the same team they were a month ago and their wins don’t matter and neither does the dominance of their offense. 

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« Reply #519 on: December 04, 2023, 08:33:55 PM »
Oh, you don't think Colorado would have been in at 11-1?  They absolutely would have.  There's a reason the networks sent their studios around the country following him.

It's not some wild conspiracy.  It's a billion dollar industry, built on the backs of tv money.  They don't pay that kind of money just to see what kind of games fall in their laps.  Hell I remember MSU's best Dantonio team (to that point) getting sent to the Outback Bowl, because a Michigan team that didn't beat a single ranked team all year was good for the first time in like 4 years, and lost to MSU, was picked to the Sugar Bowl.  Do you think the tv networks stopped caring because the CFP has "title implications"?  They don't give two shits about the intregity of anything.  They paid billions of dollars for eyeballs
Dude, AAA, my longtime internet buddy--  I'm just messing around.  I'm really not making any serious stance on any of this stuff.

But-- I spent most of last week telling folks that I think potential television ratings factor in to the selections the committee makes.  I've made no secret about my feelings on the matter.

And yes I believe Alabama draws better than FSU when under the same circumstances.  I was just funning with all that too.

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« Reply #520 on: December 04, 2023, 08:34:56 PM »
I deem it more likely you're all trolling me than genuinely believe what you're posting.  It's like the twilight zone.  
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« Reply #521 on: December 04, 2023, 08:48:14 PM »
I deem it more likely you're all trolling me than genuinely believe what you're posting.  It's like the twilight zone. 
I believe right now FSU would lose to Bama.  I also would have put them in ahead of Bama.  The weird thing about what I think is I’ve found out it’s not always right.  The last two weeks I took Florida +6.5 against FSU and Saturday night I took UL straight up.  But I’m supposed to just rank teams on what I think with full confidence?  Lol. No.

It cracks me up that you will say things like “a second grader can count losses.”  A second grader can also just randomly rank teams without looking at which teams actually won games or not.

Give me the rankings of a second grader who counts losses over the one who just goes by feel any day of the week.

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« Reply #522 on: December 04, 2023, 09:01:39 PM »
So margin of victory should never be mentioned again, ever.  FSU won, so that's that.  Ignore their 10 yards of total offense in the first 28 minutes vs a shit-show Florida defense.  Ignore the Noles' offense making UL's defense look like the '85 Bears until their backup RB magically hit a long run.

Doesn't matter, they won. 

No more moving teams down for close games vs inferior opponents.  No more comparing scores of games vs common opponents.

It's just "stuff" that should be ignored all of a sudden.  Because reasons.
Well, yeah. At the end of the day, the wins matter more than the stuff. That's the whole point. To make the winner and loser important, as opposed to judging them like figure skaters. Florida State had one of the best defensive performances of the year of any team in their championship game, and instead of congratulations they get deducted points for not nailing the triple axel.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #523 on: December 04, 2023, 09:14:20 PM »
Awful lot of posts, none of which suggest "Jordan Travis is out, and FSU is no longer worthy of a playoff spot."

Weird.
Can't trust a backup. You remember that time that Saban benched Jalen Hurts in the middle of the national championship game for his backup, and then lost in horrible fashion?

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #524 on: December 04, 2023, 10:31:55 PM »
Well, good conversations today folks.  I think we came to a consensus and resolved all of the issues.  We're all in agreement.


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« Reply #525 on: December 04, 2023, 10:33:09 PM »
Well, good conversations today folks.  I think we came to a consensus and resolved all of the issues.  We're all in agreement.


Disagree.

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« Reply #526 on: December 04, 2023, 11:12:03 PM »
I deem it more likely you're all trolling me than genuinely believe what you're posting.  It's like the twilight zone. 
Has anyone said FSU should be there, because they will win?

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« Reply #527 on: December 04, 2023, 11:14:16 PM »
Is this a genuine thought?  WTF?
I mean, apparently.  You tell me,.you are the one who would have that thought 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #528 on: December 05, 2023, 12:44:32 AM »
Can't trust a backup. You remember that time that Saban benched Jalen Hurts in the middle of the national championship game for his backup, and then lost in horrible fashion?
You're smarter than this.
Look at what the committee did. 
Week 13:  FSU vs FCS Directional Tech.....Jordan Travis is hurt badly, out for the year.  So there's some uncertainty there.  FSU blows out the FCS team.  FSU was ranked 4th, but drops down to 5th.  5th out of the 5 undefeated P5 teams left.
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Week 14:  Rivalry Weekend!  The Game!  OSU loses to UM and drops.  FSU, with their backup QB, beats Florida.  The offense looks bad.  But with OSU losing, FSU moves up.  The committee gave FSU the benefit of the doubt here. Bad offensive showing vs a bad defense, but they got it done, and as they're prone to do, just shuffling up the zero-loss teams ahead of the 1-loss teams.
What we all may not have known here is that the committee was focusing on FSU, especially the offense, and wanted to give them the opportunity to play their way into maintaining their ranking (4th, once again). 
Just look like a playoff team vs UL.  Show that the offense is functional and not a dumpster fire.  Earn you way in.  Here's your chance.
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Week 15:  FSU scores one TD.  Their defense plays with its hair on fire, but FSU is half a team.  They were given the benefit of the doubt the week before, but they've shown the offense is a shell of its former self. 
RB Benson could have taken over, but didn't.
WR Coleman could have stepped up his game, but didn't.
The only plus was the backup RB hitting one long run. 
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Two teams behind FSU were also being watched closely.  One played the #1 team and the other played a lower-ranked team.  Oklahoma State was ranked even below Louisville.  Alabama beat #1 and Texas beat Okie State, scoring more than 1 TD.  They scored 7 TDs.  Played their way into the playoff. 
So Bama beat the #1 team and Texas drubbed the lower-ranked team, playing well on both sides of the ball.
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Is it unfortunate that FSU lost its QB?  Yes.
Would it have immensely helped if someone stepped up on offense?  Yes.
Is any of this "fair"?  No.
Is it some sort of bomb shelter cash handshake conspiracy?  No.
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Any of the 4 teams in the playoff could win it. 
You could not say that with FSU included.  FSU had the chance to play their way in, and they fell short.  No, their backup QB isn't appreciably better than the 3rd stringer.  No, a zero in the loss column isn't a "get into the playoff free" card. 
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I am truly baffled that the consensus seems to be that FSU being left out is some sort of crime against everything that is holy and good in the world.
Oh, and this:






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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #529 on: December 05, 2023, 06:24:12 AM »

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Any of the 4 teams in the playoff could win it. 

You could not say that with FSU included.
You keep saying you are baffled, but then you just say stuff like this, that you just pulled out of your ass as fact, when it obviously isn't. Anyone who has ever watched football knows this is completely false, cannot be defended, yet it gets thrown around anyway. 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #530 on: December 05, 2023, 06:52:41 AM »

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I am sure Our Michigan friends here won’t like me posting this. 

This is a rant- but he raises a great point.  Not about UM- but about our CFB media and the sport itself.  A must 5 minute listen.  
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #531 on: December 05, 2023, 07:06:01 AM »
I believe right now FSU would lose to Bama.  I also would have put them in ahead of Bama.  
FSU is nearly a 2 TD dog to UGA.  There's your sign.  FSU would lose to Bama about 85% of the time.  

The lines with the four teams chosen will be much closer.

 

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