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MrNubbz · « **Reply #336 on:** December 03, 2023, 05:17:30 PM »

Ya tell that to the kids sitting out because of more games

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #337 on:** December 03, 2023, 05:19:32 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on December 03, 2023, 04:54:46 PM

Id rather have too many teams then not enough

Eight is the correct number

IMHO the correct number is zero. Go back to 1997.

All this focus on crowning a champion is destroying the sport for about 120 FBS teams.

FearlessF · « **Reply #338 on:** December 03, 2023, 05:19:53 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on December 03, 2023, 04:54:46 PM

Id rather have too many teams then not enough

Eight is the correct number

2 is plenty

#1 michigan vs #2 Warshington

FearlessF · « **Reply #339 on:** December 03, 2023, 05:21:04 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 03, 2023, 05:19:32 PM

IMHO the correct number is zero. Go back to 1997.

All this focus on crowning a champion is destroying the sport for about 120 FBS teams.

97 was a good year - I'm fine with that

1998 is even better in my book - no hiding in the Doze Bowl

bayareabadger · « **Reply #340 on:** December 03, 2023, 06:14:26 PM »

I was in a movie and then got dinner, but intersting to see participation trophy culture won out. Quite silly.

I guess if we needed something to make a 12-team playoff seem more useful, this was it.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #341 on:** December 03, 2023, 06:16:35 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 03, 2023, 05:19:32 PM

IMHO the correct number is zero. Go back to 1997.

All this focus on crowning a champion is destroying the sport for about 120 FBS teams.

I feel weird about that, because we'd need a certain kind of CFB-consuming public for that to work, and I just have no faith such a public exists.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #342 on:** December 03, 2023, 07:03:18 PM »

Quote from: bayareabadger on December 03, 2023, 06:16:35 PM

I feel weird about that, because we'd need a certain kind of CFB-consuming public for that to work, and I just have no faith such a public exists.

We're rapidly approaching a world where "the CFB-consuming public" will be the fans of about 20 teams, and the rest tune out.

Right now most CFB is as relevant to me as most NFL, except that I don't even have a fantasy football aspect.

FearlessF · « **Reply #343 on:** December 03, 2023, 07:32:07 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 03, 2023, 07:03:18 PM

We're rapidly approaching a world where "the CFB-consuming public" will be the fans of about 20 teams, and the rest tune out.

top 9 of the B1G and SEC each, and Notre Dame
we've just determined the ACC doesn't matter
what's left of the Big 12 doesn't stand a prayer

MrNubbz · « **Reply #344 on:** December 03, 2023, 07:38:56 PM »

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/college-sports/2023/12/143665/2022-the-year-that-broke-college-football#new

Pretty good lead in to the thread

FearlessF · « **Reply #345 on:** December 03, 2023, 07:40:46 PM »

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #346 on:** December 03, 2023, 09:48:39 PM »

Let's analyze this from various postseason models.

Pre-BCS:

#1 Michigan vs #2 Washington in the RoseBowl. Everyone else is effectively out.

BCS:

#1 Michigan vs #× Washington in the BCSNCG. Everyone else out.

CFP:

#1 Michigan vs #4 Alabama
#2 Washington vs #3 Texas
Everyone else effectively out.

The eight team model that a lot of us here advocated:

#1 Michigan, B1G Champion
#2 Washington, P12 Champion
#3 Texas, B12 Champion
#4 Bama, SEC Champion
#5 Florida State, ACC Champion
#6 Georgia, at-large
#7 Ohio State, at-large
#23 Liberty

So the games would be:

#23 Liberty at #1 Michigan winner vs
#5 FSU at #4 Bama
#7 Ohio State at #2 Washington, winner vs
#6 Georgia at #3 Texas

As I understand the 12-team model we are going to next year (correct me if I'm wrong) the teams would be:

#1 Michigan B1G Champion
#2 Washington, P12 Champion
#3 Texas, B12 Champion
#4 Bama, SEC Champion
#5 FSU, ACC Champion
#6 Georgia, at-large
#7 Ohio State, at-large
#8 Oregon, at-large
#9 Mizzou, at-large
#10 Penn State, at-large
#11 Ole Miss, at-large
#23 Liberty, whatever league they are in

So the games would be:

#23 Liberty at #5 FSU, winner vs #4 Bama
#11 Ole Miss at #Georgia, winner vs #3 Texas
#10 Penn State at #7 Ohio State, winner vs #2 Washington
#9 Mizzou at #8 Oregon, winner vs #1 Michigan

Then:

Liberty/FSU vs Bama, winner vs
Mizzou/Oregon vs Michigan
Ole Miss/UGA vs Texas, winner vs
PSU/tOSU vs Washington

SuperMario · « **Reply #347 on:** December 03, 2023, 10:18:28 PM »

Can someone explain to me what I’m missing on the eye test with Bama?

They needed a Hail Mary to beat a very average Auburn team. Ok, can’t discount a big play. But they also struggled with an 8 loss Arkansas team. Struggled with a 7-5 A&M team. Lost at home to Texas.

The big Tennessee win? Oh the TN that lost to the Gators?

The big Kentucky win, who lost 5 of their last 7?

Chattanooga?

Yes, they beat the #1 Georgia team, but hearing this garbage they pass the eye test and have been a different team since losing to Texas is a freaking joke. They had one great game against Georgia. Besides that, they don’t look like a great team and this committee was all about money and creating a reason rest people accept the new playoff model and sneak in a SEC team. It’s total garbage and I feel terrible for FSU who earned it on the field.

I hope FSU beats Georgia and Michigan stomps Bama to show what a sham this was.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #348 on:** December 03, 2023, 10:28:47 PM »

Quote from: SuperMario on December 03, 2023, 10:18:28 PM

Can someone explain to me what I’m missing on the eye test with Bama?

They are the SEC. And SEC can't be left out. No siree.

FearlessF · « **Reply #349 on:** December 03, 2023, 10:33:01 PM »

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