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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2021, 04:29:45 PM »
Quote from: bamajoe on May 05, 2021, 03:02:20 PM
I don't necessarily disagree with your rankings but I would like to point out a couple things. You have your 08 Florida team higher than Bama's 09 team. The 09 Florida team that Bama crushed was virtually identical to the 08 Florida team. Virtually everybody came back fpr Florida including Tebow.

Many says this, but look at their avg scores:
2008:  44-13
2009:  36-12

Whether everyone was back or not, the 09 team wasn't as good as the 08 team.  Percy Harvin was kinda good.
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2021, 04:32:46 PM »
I don't say this.....
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2021, 04:45:59 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 05, 2021, 04:29:45 PM
Many says this, but look at their avg scores:
2008:  44-13
2009:  36-12

Whether everyone was back or not, the 09 team wasn't as good as the 08 team.  Percy Harvin was kinda good.
It reminds me a lot of OSU not returning Tom Herman in 2015. The offense for them became a heck of a lot less interesting.
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2021, 05:15:29 PM »
won't argue uf/bama.

what's interesting to me is you have '12 bama as the tops overall when i'm not sure id consider it top half of just the bama teams.

you say they have no weakness, and that's true, there's no glaring weakness, but they're something just not there with that team. arguably the best oline for bama ever though which is impressive enough.

think i'd go
20 bama - 1 3rd qtr collapse vs uf from having a win margin record similar to 95 'braska. and vs all sec, nd and osu. gotta be one of the toughest single season schedules all time.
19 lsu - might be recency bias, but they're also in all time great argument.
15 bama
18 clemson
11 bama
08 uf
14 osu
09 bama
13 fsu
16 clemson
17 bama
10 au
06 uf
07 lsu

not much different. honestly, after the top 2, the next 6-8 are fairly interchangeable. so are the last 4-5 but they need to be at end.
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2021, 05:41:31 PM »
You definitely have a unique situation to be ranking so many great Bama squads in such a short time period....you'd be the expert, though.

Where do you put '12?
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2021, 08:09:45 PM »
I'd probably put LSU #1, mostly because I think that year was perhaps the strongest in college football I can remember in some time. OSU last year was statistically one of the best teams ever and came in third. 
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2021, 09:08:30 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 05, 2021, 05:41:31 PM
You definitely have a unique situation to be ranking so many great Bama squads in such a short time period....you'd be the expert, though.

Where do you put '12?
Ha. Apparently I’d just leave them out altogether. 
probably after 16 Clemson. Some of these are circular though. Like I think I’d take 12 bama over 13 FSU but not 16 Clemson. I don’t know. Those middle ones are all jumbled up to me. 
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2021, 12:01:35 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on May 05, 2021, 09:08:30 PM
Ha. Apparently I’d just leave them out altogether.
probably after 16 Clemson. Some of these are circular though. Like I think I’d take 12 bama over 13 FSU but not 16 Clemson. I don’t know. Those middle ones are all jumbled up to me.
Right, that's why I think if they played a round-robin the team coming out on top would be something like 10-4.
If you have 19 LSU at the top, it's biggest challenger probably isn't the next-best team, but a ball-control '15 Bama or an all-time great pass D like '11 Bama.  
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2021, 12:02:12 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on May 05, 2021, 08:09:45 PM
I'd probably put LSU #1, mostly because I think that year was perhaps the strongest in college football I can remember in some time. OSU last year was statistically one of the best teams ever and came in third.
I agree - these playoff NCs have a little extra on their resumes, for sure. 
19 LSU's defense wasn't NC-elite, but look who they beat.  
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2021, 01:35:27 PM »
Does anyone think any of these teams would be favored over '19 LSU?
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2021, 01:59:24 PM »
it's very possible, great group of teams

but, you'd have to ask Vegas
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2021, 02:44:16 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
it's very possible, great group of teams

but, you'd have to ask Vegas
Everyone remembers what they did to OU, but they also only beat Auburn 23-20.  That AU team had a great D-line.
Florida's 06 team had great pass-rushing DEs.
09 Bama's D-line took out McCoy.
14 OSU had Joey Bosa and 3 others with 10+ TFL
16 and 18 Clemson's D-lines had great players both inside and outside.
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2021, 03:13:10 PM »
IMHO that Clemson team of 2018 with Trevor Lawrence and a host of great d-linemen and wrs and that blew out Alabama is easily the best team that I have seen. The 2019 LSU team was a great one, but its statistics are no better than 2020 Bama, who accomplished its merit against a 100% SEC schedule. The LSU team beat Auburn by 3, Alabama by 5, and A&M by 7. They beat Bama with Tua less than three weeks from ankle surgery. The 2020 Alabama only had one close game the entire year. Yes, 2020 Bama would have been favored over 2019 LSU.
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Re: Silly Meaningless Exercise
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2021, 02:24:43 AM »
Am I the only one who feels like 2020 Alabama's stars were the focal point and not the quality of the team as a whole?
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It's almost as if it's "Big, Bad Bama" fatigue or something.  Kind of like how no one would get more than 3 MVPs in baseball (for the longest time).  I feel like 2020 Bama was covered differently just for variety-sake.
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