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ELA · « **Reply #294 on:** June 28, 2021, 12:15:45 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on June 28, 2021, 12:07:03 PM

You could use pre-season rankings or somesuch to determine which teams play. Imagine a B1G/SEC challenge. Right now you would expect tOSU and Bama to play each other every year as #1/#1 but in 7-10 years that could be completely different. No matter what, the better teams in the B1G would play better teams from the SEC and the bottom feeders in the B1G would play bottom feeders in the SEC. In theory you'd get 14 reasonably competitive games.

Finally, after selling the initial TV rights, the BTN and SECN would get the secondary TV rights so that BTN could re-air B1G wins and SECN could re-air SEC wins.

I don't think you'd like how the Big Ten would fare in the #2-#8ish type games

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #295 on:** June 28, 2021, 12:16:40 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on June 28, 2021, 11:03:08 AM

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The Buckeyes are now in a pattern of playing nine conference games, one marquee OOC game, and two scrubs. In theory they could play three marquee OOC games instead. Most of us, as fans, would love to see an OOC slate of Bama, Clemson, and Oklahoma but the AD at tOSU doesn't schedule that. Why? It isn't because he is ducking Bama/Clemson/OU, it is because we (the fans) are willing to fork over cash for tickets to games against Ohio MAC schools so he doesn't have to schedule Bama/Clemson/OU to sell tickets. He can fill the stadium with paying customers for games against BGSU, Toledo, Akron, Kent, OhU, etc. He does that not because he isn't manly enough to schedule Bama/Clemson/OU but because financially he is better off with BGSU/Toledo/Akron.

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When Tressel was the HC you could count on one marquee game against a Helmet/Top 10, and one game against a team from Ohio. It wasn't nearly as awesome as having a fixed, natural OOC rival, but at the very least it was something that you could count on.

I don't think that you can point to either as a staple on the OOC schedule anymore. In the 2010s, you had Miami(FL) in 10 and 11, which was the tail end of Tressel ball. Since then Oklahoma has been the only OOC series that lived up to what we had become accustomed in the 20-ots. Cal? Va Tech? TCU? Colorado and OSU3? This is a pretty big drop off from USC, Texas, etc that OSU had H-As with the previous decade.

As for the annual Ohio teams, that sputtered out in 2014. Since then OSU played BG in 16, and then Miami and Cincinnati (which also doubled as the "marquee" match up) in 19.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #296 on:** June 28, 2021, 12:24:47 PM »

Quote from: ELA on June 28, 2021, 12:15:45 PM

I don't think you'd like how the Big Ten would fare in the #2-#8ish type games

Considering our 2 and 3 are Northwestern and Indiana, I'd have to agree here.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #297 on:** June 28, 2021, 12:33:35 PM »

Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 28, 2021, 12:16:40 PM

When Tressel was the HC you could count on one marquee game against a Helmet/Top 10, and one game against a team from Ohio. It wasn't nearly as awesome as having a fixed, natural OOC rival, but at the very least it was something that you could count on.

I don't think that you can point to either as a staple on the OOC schedule anymore. In the 2010s, you had Miami(FL) in 10 and 11, which was the tail end of Tressel ball. Since then Oklahoma has been the only OOC series that lived up to what we had become accustomed in the 20-ots. Cal? Va Tech? TCU? Colorado and OSU3? This is a pretty big drop off from USC, Texas, etc that OSU had H-As with the previous decade.

As for the annual Ohio teams, that sputtered out in 2014. Since then OSU played BG in 16, and then Miami and Cincinnati (which also doubled as the "marquee" match up) in 19.

I *THINK* this is temporary rather than permanent:

Oregon was on the schedule for 2020/1 but the 2020 game got nixed due to COVID. They are back on for 2032/3
ND is on the schedule for 2022/3
Washington is on the schedule for 2024/5
Texas is on the schedule for 2025/6
Bama is on the schedule for 2027/8
UGA is on the schedule for 2030/31

Future OOC schedule for the Buckeyes with what I view as "marquee" games bolded.
2021:

Oregon
Tulsa
Akron

2022:

Notre Dame
Arkansas St
Toledo

2023:

SJSU
WKU
@ Notre Dame

2024:

S. Miss
@ Washington

2025:

Texas
Washington
UCONN

2026:

Ball State
@ Texas
Boston College

2027:

Bama
@ Boston College

2028:

@ Bama

2029:

?

2030:

@ UGA

2031:

UGA

2032:

@ Oregon

2033:

Oregon

You really can't complain about that. Oregon, Notre Dame, Bama, and UGA have all been to the CFP while Texas and Washington are traditional powers as well. Even the Boston College series is quasi-Marquee.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #298 on:** June 28, 2021, 12:36:05 PM »

Quote from: ELA on June 28, 2021, 12:15:45 PM

I don't think you'd like how the Big Ten would fare in the #2-#8ish type games

Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 28, 2021, 12:24:47 PM

Considering our 2 and 3 are Northwestern and Indiana, I'd have to agree here.

Yeah, I agree. Looking at the last few seasons I think that Ohio State would have a hard time matching Bama but in a decade the Buckeyes would probably win 3-4. I also think that the bottom feeders in the B1G would be as good or possibly better than the bottom feeders in the SEC but roughly that 2-8 group would would be problematic for us.

I was thinking more in terms of money. That would be a slew of big-draw games.

FearlessF · « **Reply #299 on:** June 28, 2021, 12:44:14 PM »

2-8 group would make some good $$$$

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #300 on:** June 28, 2021, 12:53:19 PM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on June 28, 2021, 12:33:35 PM

I *THINK* this is temporary rather than permanent:
Oregon was on the schedule for 2020/1 but the 2020 game got nixed due to COVID. They are back on for 2032/3
ND is on the schedule for 2022/3
Washington is on the schedule for 2024/5
Texas is on the schedule for 2025/6
Bama is on the schedule for 2027/8
UGA is on the schedule for 2030/31
Future OOC schedule for the Buckeyes with what I view as "marquee" games bolded.
2021:
Oregon
Tulsa
Akron
2022:
Notre Dame
Arkansas St
Toledo
2023:
SJSU
WKU
@ Notre Dame
2024:
S. Miss
@ Washington
2025:
Texas
Washington
UCONN
2026:
Ball State
@ Texas
Boston College
2027:
Bama
@ Boston College
2028:
@ Bama
2029:
?
2030:
@ UGA
2031:
UGA
2032:
@ Oregon
2033:
Oregon

You really can't complain about that. Oregon, Notre Dame, Bama, and UGA have all been to the CFP while Texas and Washington are traditional powers as well. Even the Boston College series is quasi-Marquee.

Yeah that does look pretty good. I seem to remember the 2010's future schedules looking similar going in, but then a lot of it never happened. There was a cancelled series or two (with Georgia or Tennessee?), and then the TCU H-A series got restructured into a neutral site one off.

I can also buy that Miami and Virginia Tech were expected to be good when the games were scheduled, but Cal? They have always been awful aside from a brief window where they had Aaron Rogers, and even if that was when the game got scheduled I'm not sure that was enough data to project them as being any kind of a good team ten years down the line.

Just spit balling here, you are right. They haven't given up on the OOC Mega-bout yet.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #301 on:** June 28, 2021, 01:12:20 PM »

What's the best way to beef up the 2-8 to the point where the Big Ten can get a few at large teams?

OSU seems poised for the autobid more years than not, but the Big Ten is going to need to produce a competent team or three out of Penn St, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Iowa and Michigan St more often than not.

We can't be sending Indiana and Northwestern to the gallows every year.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #302 on:** June 28, 2021, 01:16:14 PM »

Last year was a blip.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #303 on:** June 28, 2021, 03:39:44 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 28, 2021, 01:16:14 PM

Last year was a blip.

Agreed and I'll add that if/when they expand to 12 that will nearly always mean room for a second B1G team. Ironically, the years when our league would be least likely to get a second team would probably be those years in which the league is REALLY good but balanced enough that every team ends up with 2+ losses.

ELA · « **Reply #304 on:** June 28, 2021, 04:26:07 PM »

Northwestern sucked last year, but take the name off Indiana's uniform, and they are a pretty typical #3 Big Ten team.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #305 on:** June 28, 2021, 04:30:47 PM »

I like seeing Indiana being pretty decent, same with NW when it happens, and it does.

I was hoping Purdue would sustain a move up. Kentucky is pretty decent now too, a real testament to coaching I think.

Tennessee used to be decent.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #306 on:** June 28, 2021, 05:47:58 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 28, 2021, 04:30:47 PM

I like seeing Indiana being pretty decent, same with NW when it happens, and it does.

I was hoping Purdue would sustain a move up. Kentucky is pretty decent now too, a real testament to coaching I think.

Tennessee used to be decent.

Purdue is, and has been for the better part of a decade, a good OL away from being a halfway decent team. Instead, a bad OL means short drives, which means a defense gassed by the third quarter, which means blowouts.

Brohm had a COMPLETE dumpster fire of an OL when he arrived. He's been rebuilding ever since, but it seems that as his recruiting improved, his OL recruits improved, but there's a 2-3 year lag to be a serviceable starter. So he's got upperclassmen with low recruiting rankings from his first class or two, with too-young underclassmen who have better rankings behind them but not physically ready to start.

Hoping this will be the year it REALLY starts to come together. I feel like he's finally starting to get OL pieces in place and a few of them are in that RS So or true Jr age range where they are ready to take the field.

Now... If he stops playing QB roulette behind them, and get an RB, and the defense sheds all signs of its Diaco infestation... We might not suck?

ELA · « **Reply #307 on:** June 28, 2021, 05:58:19 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on June 28, 2021, 05:47:58 PM

Now... If he stops playing QB roulette behind them

I feel like that's been the issue for a decade. Maybe longer. Way too quick to give the backup reps, then he becomes the darling, he earns the job. QB seems solid going into next year...and then they repeat. The weird thing is it has occurred across three different coaching staffs.

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