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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #98 on: June 11, 2021, 04:31:25 PM »
I blame Pelini and Bielema
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #99 on: June 11, 2021, 04:34:34 PM »
Would you guys want to see it regionalized? It would pretty much lock Notre Dame into the same quadrant as the Big Ten Champion. The Domers would play Toledo or Iowa St in round 1, and then the Big Ten champion in the quarterfinals.
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #100 on: June 11, 2021, 04:39:48 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on June 11, 2021, 04:24:40 PM
Does the trophy still say "Champion" on it?
That team was so weird. A hell of a hard luck team. Very good defense, vary good running offense that was maybe limited by too much Montee Ball. Deeply not good QB play and WR depth. Lost like a million close games. 

Probably more of an 8-4/9-3 team than the 7-win regular season team it was. Feisty, but lacking a certain something.  
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #101 on: June 11, 2021, 04:40:52 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 11, 2021, 04:34:34 PM
Would you guys want to see it regionalized? It would pretty much lock Notre Dame into the same quadrant as the Big Ten Champion. The Domers would play Toledo or Iowa St in round 1, and then the Big Ten champion in the quarterfinals.
Nope. 

I get why high schools and D-II do it. But you got the money, play it out. 
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #102 on: June 11, 2021, 04:52:54 PM »
Do the independents disappear for the most part? For example BYU left the Mountain West when Utah joined the PAC 12 because of the optics, but under these rules their chances of winning the Mountain West are greater than Utah's chances of winning the PAC 12, so they could make up for the conference prestige differential by having more frequent playoff appearances.
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #103 on: June 11, 2021, 04:54:25 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 11, 2021, 04:40:52 PM
Nope.

I get why high schools and D-II do it. But you got the money, play it out.
Yeah, college hoops only sort of uses it as a tiebreaker on where to send teams.
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #104 on: June 11, 2021, 07:26:51 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 11, 2021, 08:04:59 AM

I like that "rule" myself.  13-0 means no let downs all year, which is tough.

UC last year almost beat a fairly good UGA team, the gulf may be less than we think.  We have other examples where a G5 team beat a fairly good P5 team in a bowl.

a)  depends on the schedule you go 13-0 against
b)  How many Dawgs sat out that game?
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #105 on: June 11, 2021, 07:41:43 PM »
I was going to go back and show the 12-team playoff the past 20 years, and wow, starting in 2001, it's wild. 
Taking into consideration that the top 4 seeds are the top 4 ranked conference champs, the seedings vs the rankings are very different.
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The SEC champ in 2001 is the 12th seed.  However, two other SEC teams are seeded 6th and 7th.
Nebraska, who played in the BCSNCG vs Miami, is seeded 5th.
2-loss Colorado is the 2-seed, despite 4 other P5 teams having only 1 loss.
I'll put the conf champs in bold, G5 in red.
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Seeds:
1 - Miami
2 - Colorado
3 - Oregon
4 - Illinios
5 - Nebraska
6 - Florida
7 - Tennessee
8 - Texas
9 - Stanford
10 - Maryland
11 - LSU
12 - BYU
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Bracket:
8 - Texas
9 - Stanford.........winner plays 1 Miami
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5 - Nebraska
12 - BYU.............winner plays 4 Illinois
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6 - Florida
11 - LSU......winner plays 3 Oregon
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7 - Tennessee
10 - Maryland........winner plays 2 Colorado
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #106 on: June 11, 2021, 07:45:48 PM »
I'm super wary of all the rematches this is going to produce.  That's a big part of what makes individual games in the NFL nearly meaningless.  You'll get to play that team again (if they're in your division) and teams play a 3rd time in the playoffs sometimes.  
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #107 on: June 11, 2021, 07:55:03 PM »
You guys would have loved 2002.....only 1 SEC team in the entire playoff.
ND makes this one. 
We had 2 co-champs, but since WSU had a tie-breaker and OSU was ranked higher, they get the nods over USC and Iowa.
Bracket:
8 - Kansas St
9 - Notre Dame............winner plays 1 Miami
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5 - USC
12 - Boise St........winner plays 4 Washington St
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6 - Iowa
11 - Florida St (4 losses)..............winner plays 3 Georgia
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7 - Oklahoma
10 - Texas...................winner plays 2 Ohio St
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #108 on: June 11, 2021, 08:11:45 PM »
2003 is a little tricky - the final BCS standings were before the conference CGs, so I used the AP poll.
bracket:
8 - Ohio St
9 - Florida St...........winner plays 1 USC
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5 - OU
12 - Miami (OH)........winner plays 4 Kansas St
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6 - Texas
11 - Georgia.............winner plays 3 Michigan
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7 - Tennessee
10 - Miami...............winner plays 2 LSU
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Hey KSU, congrats on your upset blowout of Oklahoma......you're gonna have to do it again.  Tenn-Miami is another rematch, as would Tenn-UGA.  If UGA happened to get to the semis, yes, LSU could play UGA a third time. 
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #109 on: June 11, 2021, 09:09:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 11, 2021, 07:41:43 PM
Bracket:
8 - Texas
9 - Stanford.........winner plays 1 Miami
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5 - Nebraska
12 - BYU.............winner plays 4 Illinois
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6 - Florida
11 - LSU......winner plays 3 Oregon
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7 - Tennessee
10 - Maryland........winner plays 2 Colorado
I'd wager that Nebraska upset Illinois, then gets smoked by the Canes
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #110 on: June 11, 2021, 09:20:04 PM »
It's not the most interesting 12 team playoff, but it is at least more interesting than what we have now.
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #111 on: June 11, 2021, 09:23:33 PM »
Well that Illinois team got pantsed by the (would be) 11 seed, LSU IRL ~ Sugar Bowl.
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