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Topic: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large

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ELA

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2021, 09:42:16 AM »
It specifies the top 6 conference champions, which I hadn't noticed or wasn't included before....so if you're a 2-loss P5 champ, you're going to be biting your nails and watching some late-season G5 football.  As it is now, you already know you're out. 
I don't know why this thought had never crossed my mind.  That was always my biggest issue with the 5 auto-bids.  The random 8-4 team that wins a three way tiebreaker, and pulls an upset in a CCG.  Divisional play makes rewarding the CCG winner slightly problematic.

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2021, 09:58:23 AM »

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It both gives the G5 a seat at the table AND guarantees they'll never win a NC.  It's like the Joker's hand-buzzer in the original Batman movie:  let's shake hands....and now you're dead.  
Fortunately, the isn't much of an actual issue. 

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2021, 10:00:40 AM »
yup, nobody gives a dern about the G5, they just want the lawsuits to go away
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2021, 10:47:55 AM »
If there are as a weird year where all 5 P5 CCGs ended in upsets that relegate their actual top team to the at large pool, then you might get quite a few G5s in.

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2021, 11:30:17 AM »
I'm OK if some 8-5  team wins their P5 CG and gets in the 7-12 range.

How often would a 13-0 G5 team have made the top six in the past?  I looked, the answer is never in the history of the CFPP other than ND.




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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2021, 12:04:44 PM »
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« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2021, 12:15:31 PM »
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Wouldn't you have to move Oklahoma up to #4, and slide Notre Dame and Texas A&M each down a slot?

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2021, 12:20:20 PM »
Would the Pac Ten get a team in?

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2021, 12:27:50 PM »
Would the Pac Ten get a team in?
No, they weren't one of the 6 highest ranked conference champs.

Alabama (#1), Clemson (#2), Ohio State (#3), Oklahoma (#6), Cincinnati (#8) and Coastal Carolina (#12)

Their champ, Oregon (#25), was actually behind San Jose State (#23) too, they were the 8th highest rated conference champ, ahead of only UAB and Ball State, who were not ranked

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #80 on: June 11, 2021, 12:39:19 PM »
Are the six highest ranked conference champs the top six seeds or just guarenteed a slot?

The Pac is pretty bad.

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2021, 12:54:18 PM »
Are the six highest ranked conference champs the top six seeds or just guarenteed a slot?

The Pac is pretty bad.
Top 4 are guaranteed byes, top 6 are guaranteed a spot.

The other thing last year was Oregon slid into the CCG when Washington had a COVID outbreak, and then won.  So it was beyond just your standard CCG upset, Oregon wouldn't have even otherwise been there.

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2021, 12:56:21 PM »
So,top four get byes, top six CCs get in.

No P5 team has been even top 6 overall in the CFPP era.

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2021, 01:18:07 PM »
On Thursday night’s SportsCenter, ESPN college football analyst and College GameDay co-host Kirk Herbstreit expressed his support for the proposed system.

“I think this is inevitable and I think it’s for the best,” Herbstreit said. “I’ve kind of come full-circle, to be honest with you. I really looked at this as something that Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, it seems like every year. We can sit here in 2021, 2022, 2023; those three teams are in. Who’s going to be the one team to join those three teams? And I don’t know how healthy that is for college football. I just think that’s something that the decision-makers had said, ‘This is going to allow more teams an opportunity to compete.’ If you talk to the players, they love it. The players are fired up because they want an opportunity to compete in, ‘meaningful games.’ By going to 12, you’re going to open this thing up.”
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