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Topic: Should playoff teams be expanded?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2018, 09:52:42 PM »
Who would have to do the opting out?  Why would the SEC or ACC opt out of it?  
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2018, 09:53:04 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 13, 2018, 09:51:10 PM
the G5 loses with 6
The G5 has already lost.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2018, 09:54:10 PM »
and that losing will continue

especially with 5 or 6
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2018, 10:25:49 PM »
A G5 auto-bid under the 8 team format should only be available if they run the table imo. 

Of course then you might have a year where two of them do it. But that could happen anyway. 
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2018, 10:43:37 PM »
bids should be earned by play on the field, not auto

Washington didn't earn a big this season

IF pitt or northwestern would have pulled the upset in the CCG, neither would have earned a bid
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msufan23

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2018, 10:48:03 PM »
I like 6 Teams. The 5 P5 champions and the top G5 Champ. Also change all conference title games so that top two teams from each Conf go to the title game regardless of division.

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-Every Con Title game is now a playoff game and worth more. You can even market these as the "Conference playoffs" maybe. 
-Your season cant end in the first week of the season. A team in early Sept is often very different then the one in late Nov. College Football is the only sport were one loss in week one can end a season.
-Incentivize more big non conference games. This system makes playing out of conference games worth while. You wont have your season end if you lose and these games can be huge factors in getting those top two spots for byes in the playoffs which I think every team would tell you is a huge benefit. 
-There is a clear path to winning a championship for every team.
-While only 6 teams officially make the playoffs with all your conference title games being playoffs you are really able to grow the field to 11-14 teams(depending on how many group of 5 teams are in contention on the last Saturday) without adding a bunch more games to the college football season.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2018, 10:49:39 PM »
Auto-bids are indeed earned by winning your Conference. 
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msufan23

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2018, 10:50:09 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 13, 2018, 10:43:37 PM
bids should be earned by play on the field, not auto

Washington didn't earn a big this season

IF pitt or northwestern would have pulled the upset in the CCG, neither would have earned a bid
All Conf title games should just be the top two teams regardless of division I think. If you are good enough to make the title game and then win it you have earned your place in the playoff over the course of a season I think.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2018, 11:11:55 PM »
So is Northwestern the 2nd best team on the Big Ten or Michigan?  Both 8-1 in conference

I don't like the idea of an 8-1 Michigan getting a rematch a week later after losing 62-39

Syracuse and Pitt both 6-2 in the ACC

Washington vs Washington St. rematch in the PAC?

I don't think it helps much

I like that it eliminates some fluky upsets, but I'd rather not have non-con games and rankings tell us who's 2nd best in the conference
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2018, 11:26:25 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 13, 2018, 11:11:55 PM
So is Northwestern the 2nd best team on the Big Ten or Michigan?  Both 8-1 in conference

I don't like the idea of an 8-1 Michigan getting a rematch a week later after losing 62-39

Syracuse and Pitt both 6-2 in the ACC

Washington vs Washington St. rematch in the PAC?

I don't think it helps much

I like that it eliminates some fluky upsets, but I'd rather not have non-con games and rankings tell us who's 2nd best in the conference
I dont think you need to use anything other then normal conf rules. Michigan would go by virtue of the win they had over Northwestern. I cant speak to the other conf because I dont know who beat who.  Im fine with rematches since it can happen anyway. This would at least you give better games on the whole. It would also keep the fringe 7-5 type teams out more often. 
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2018, 11:35:31 PM »
I like the better games slant, just don't think Michigan deserved another chance after their performance vs the Bucks
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2018, 01:02:25 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 13, 2018, 07:01:20 PM
well, let's hope they win 2 of 3

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 13, 2018, 06:10:31 PM
btw, USF had no trouble scheduling a 2-for-1 with Florida
2021 - Tampa
2022 - Gainesville
2025 - Gainesville


That's different. USF plays Raymond James Stadium. They might well force Pig Town into playing them home-and-home, as UF fans will help USF fill the place at a premium price. USF is almost on par with UF and FSU in terms of talent and performance. Bearcats are not on par or close to Ohio State. Bearcats may be the 2nd best team in Ohio, or in many years, they may not be the 2nd best team.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2018, 07:44:17 AM »
I think if an opponent has a 60+K seat stadium they can fill for a game, they merit a home and away agreement.

If they play in a 30 K stadium, not.

And UF fans would fill up the UCF stadium if UCF doesn't anyway.

Of course, if you schedule UCF now for games in '26, they could be mediocre by then.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2018, 07:58:59 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on December 14, 2018, 01:02:25 AM
That's different. USF plays Raymond James Stadium. They might well force Pig Town into playing them home-and-home, as UF fans will help USF fill the place at a premium price. USF is almost on par with UF and FSU in terms of talent and performance. Bearcats are not on par or close to Ohio State. Bearcats may be the 2nd best team in Ohio, or in many years, they may not be the 2nd best team.
Huh? 
Cincinnati and SFU have played 16 times since 2003, and the Bearcats lead the series 9-7.
This year the Bearcats beat the Bulls by 12.
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