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Topic: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?

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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2024, 02:26:26 PM »
Now I'm confused, but I'm glad I was right, somehow.


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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2024, 02:27:08 PM »
You do.  You've spent the last 2 pages repeating just that.

If you think a 7th place MAC, and and low tier SEC are the same thing, then you got me.

But you don't, and ....you don't.

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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2024, 02:30:53 PM »
Now I'm confused, but I'm glad I was right, somehow.



I think this is exactly what the committee will say on selection Sunday.

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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2024, 02:31:33 PM »
If you think a 7th place MAC, and and low tier SEC are the same thing, then you got me.

But you don't, and ....you don't.
i have no idea what the MAC has to do with it.

But my fundamental disagreement with you is you forgiving a shitty loss due to a "good win." 

The first time Georgia or Alabama lost, that seemed like a "good win."  The second time, it can only diminish the "good win" status.

So now it just ends up as a circle jerk of "credibility" from "good wins" from teams that keep on piling on the losses.


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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2024, 02:33:15 PM »
I think this is exactly what the committee will say on selection Sunday.
Now this I'll agree with.

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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2024, 02:34:42 PM »
a shitty loss is a shitty loss is a shitty loss and should be penalized

IMO

Great teams don't lose to shitty teams

only room for great teams in a 12-team playoff - (as at large)

Only 7 slots open for at-large 
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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2024, 02:39:50 PM »
i have no idea what the MAC has to do with it.

The example was NIU -- that's not forgivable.  They're in the MAC, 7th place to be exact.

But my fundamental disagreement with you is you forgiving a shitty loss due to a "good win." 

 Fair enough.  I'm not sure what your measuring stick is.  So make a case for every current 2 loss SEC team, and tell me who gets in.  Maybe that will help me see your side.

The first time Georgia or Alabama lost, that seemed like a "good win."  The second time, it can only diminish the "good win" status.

So now it just ends up as a circle jerk of "credibility" from "good wins" from teams that keep on piling on the losses.

Yep.  And this is what the committee is wading through every week.



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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2024, 02:41:08 PM »
a shitty loss is a shitty loss is a shitty loss and should be penalized

IMO

Great teams don't lose to shitty teams

only room for great teams in a 12-team playoff - (as at large)

Only 7 slots open for at-large

Better shrink the playoff back to 4 teams.  There aren't 12 great teams.  

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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2024, 03:12:49 PM »
just need 7 for at large slots

Big Ten has 3 w/o shitty losses - assuming Oregon is the champ and takes a top 4 seed
PSU, tOSU, & the Hoosiers

SEC has 3 w/o shitty losses - assuming Texas is the champ
A&M, UGA, & the Cocks

Just need one more..........
ND has a shitty loss
Clemson if they win out
Miami if Georgia Tech wins out over UGA
SMU if Clemson takes the ACC top 4 seed
the Big 12 has nuttin
the PAC? nuttin

yup, tough to find 7
and might be tougher in a couple weeks


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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2024, 03:16:01 PM »
Quote
 Fair enough.  I'm not sure what your measuring stick is.  So make a case for every current 2 loss SEC team, and tell me who gets in.  Maybe that will help me see your side.


Well first of all, Texas isn't a 2-loss SEC team.  No case needs to be made there, unless/until a second loss occurs.

And second, I really don't feel like spending the time to do that, no offense intended.  That's the selection committee's job, not mine.  If they want to pay me, I'll go through that exercise for them. :)


Better shrink the playoff back to 4 teams.  There aren't 12 great teams. 
Best idea all day, completely agree.

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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2024, 03:24:39 PM »

Well first of all, Texas isn't a 2-loss SEC team.  No case needs to be made there, unless/until a second loss occurs.

And second, I really don't feel like spending the time to do that, no offense intended.  That's the selection committee's job, not mine.  If they want to pay me, I'll go through that exercise for them. :)



Now, now......don't knock it until you've tried it.

The time you've spent shooting holes in my logic, you could've already made your case.  

Where do I mail the check to?


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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2024, 03:35:22 PM »
Now, now......don't knock it until you've tried it.

The time you've spent shooting holes in my logic, you could've already made your case. 

Where do I mail the check to?


Ha!

To be fair, I don't really have any issues with your logic.  I think you and I have a fundamental difference of opinion on assigning the relative merit of wins and losses, and there's no "fix" for that, it just IS. :)

Ultimately I obviously HOPE that Texas wins out, including and especially the win over rival Texas A&M, and that really doesn't have anything to do with the playoff.  It's much deeper and more important than that.

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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2024, 03:39:46 PM »
Better shrink the playoff back to 4 teams.  There aren't 12 great teams. 
the 12 team playoff was all about allowing non-great teams a seat at the table - I understand

an ungreat team is gonna slide in once in a while in the 7 at-large slots
that's OK with me to a certain extent
if you are an undeserving team with a shitty loss - sorry, cry if you'd like
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Re: Serious question: What is IU's record with Georgia's schedule?
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2024, 03:46:05 PM »
We saw TCU slide into the final 2 a bit back, few thought they had a really elite team.  I "think" the days of having 1-2-3-4 really "elite" level teams are over, we're going to have some really good teams and some pretty good but dangerous teams.  This year we'll see a couple "pretty good" teams left out.  They'll get some bowl invite.

Bowl season is going to look really weird I think.

 

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