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Topic: September 2 Stream of Conciousness

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #252 on: September 06, 2017, 10:14:09 AM »
Three off the top of my head.  One of the Ole Miss games with a ridiculous amount of crazy turnovers, the aforementioned A&M game, and the 2013 Auburn game...largely well played by Auburn, but I'm forced to admit winning on a kick-6 is crazy and not likely to be repeated in 10 tries.  Oklahoma and the rest of them in that time span, you just have to give credit to the other teams.  It's erroneous to guess at Alabama's interest level against the Sooners, I have no way of knowing, and I give Bama's players and coaching staff more credit than that.  OU played on fire that night, just like Watson and Clemson did, I think they just get due credit.  Ole Miss mostly just played a better game the other time they beat them, it happens.  LSU won because up until 2-3 years ago, LSU's roster = their roster, albeit with serious deficiencies at QB, but those aren't flukes, it's just a great roster accustomed to operating a game plan hiding terrible QB play.  That's all the teams I can think of to beat them in that time frame.  
The comment about Ohio State is baffling.  It was the playoffs, and the first year of the playoffs at that.  I can't imagine Alabama wanting to be anywhere else.  
Sorry for the confusion - I was referring to Bama not being mentally in the game in the 2014 Sugar Bowl vs. Oklahoma.

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #253 on: September 06, 2017, 10:18:39 AM »
"Old School" football, stop the run, run the ball, dominate the clock, wear out the other team, special teams pluses.

On occasion, somebody will beat you passing the ball.  On rare occasion, someone lines up and simply knock you off the line and runs the ball anyway.

It ain't some mystery, but it's hard to do at Bama's level with consistency.

Any one who beats them is either just as deep and talented or has a QB who has an insane game or gets a 5-0 TO margin.

None of those things happen very often.  OSU is really the only program I see that recruits at the same level as Bama.

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #254 on: September 06, 2017, 10:58:47 AM »
Georgia isn't far off.  It's second only to Bama as far as 4+ star recruits go in the SEC.  I think it's safe to assume that if UGA and Bama swapped players, Saban would still win big (not necessarily natties every other season, but at least SEC championships and playoff berths)

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #255 on: September 06, 2017, 11:26:08 AM »
On paper, UGA should win the east.  And it really shouldn't be close.  They have more players than other SEC sans the Gumps.  That part of my brain really wants to pick them, but UGA is the king of disappointing my high expectations of them.  I'm very trigger-shy about picking them.  

But on paper, yeah, I think your SEC CG participant picks have to Bama vs. UGA this year.  

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #256 on: September 06, 2017, 11:33:58 AM »
My too early conference rankings after week 1:

1.  B1G
2.  ACC
3.  a)  SEC
     b)  PAC 12
5.  Big 12

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #257 on: September 06, 2017, 12:54:55 PM »
four B1G teams in the top 10?

That's not sustainable

as silly as having four or five SEC teams in the top 10 a few years ago
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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #258 on: September 06, 2017, 01:17:23 PM »
Speaking of on paper, I think the B1G CG picks would have to be Wisconsin vs. winner of Ohio St/PSU

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #259 on: September 06, 2017, 03:32:11 PM »
The Dawgs need to prove they can do better than "doing less with more".  They often did this under Dooley back in the day, but when they started accumulating talent, they would suddenly tank a game they should have won, against Florida or Tennessee or South Carolina, or all three.  The have not always been the most talented team in the SEC East of course, but I'd say more often than not they were.  They are the "anti-Wisconsin" program.

I think a good bit of this is weakness in the OLine.  A team derives a lot of consistency from OL play and conditioning.  It enables you nearly always to crush lesser teams and compete with teams even more talented than you overall.

Georgia barely edged Nicholls last year in Game Two, and the OL looked awful.  That presaged a mediocre year at best.

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Re: September 2 Stream of Conciousness
« Reply #260 on: September 07, 2017, 12:56:11 PM »

3 of the top 4 freshmen in the nation for Week 1 in the conference too

 

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