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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #140 on: November 24, 2021, 01:38:49 PM »
How does a strong G5 team go undefeated with a loss to another G5 team?


I think you have dementia.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #141 on: November 24, 2021, 01:42:03 PM »
The point is that when is a P5's lone loss vs a G5 team? 
Nearly never.
Notre Dame, 2021.

Oregon, every time they've lost to Boise. 

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #142 on: November 24, 2021, 01:48:23 PM »


Oregon, every time they've lost to Boise.
I don't think you know what 'lone' means.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #143 on: November 24, 2021, 01:54:17 PM »
Wow, most teams that get off to an undefeated start eventually drop a game to a team in their own Conference. 

Ground breaking. 

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« Reply #144 on: November 24, 2021, 01:55:24 PM »
You're too busy being an asshole to actually contribute. 

But yes, and what your snarky summary means is that while an OSU or Alabama randomly loses to an average-to-good P5 team, your Cincinnati or UCF is busy dropping a game to a Tulsa or a Memphis.


You G5 groupies acknowledge only the peaks of their existence and ignore the other 99.7%.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #145 on: November 24, 2021, 01:56:57 PM »
I'm contributing to the pointing and laughing at the board clown in clown shoes, a clown nose and a bright orange clown wig. 

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #146 on: November 24, 2021, 01:58:16 PM »
A 1-loss Oregon has never lost to Boise State.  Is this how you always react when you're immediately shown to be wrong?  Who's the clown?
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #147 on: November 24, 2021, 02:13:14 PM »
You G5 groupies acknowledge only the peaks of their existence and ignore the other 99.7%.
Yeah, so except for the years they win the lottery, they're broke. 

That means their lottery years are worthless, right? 

Purdue won the Big Ten in 2000 (via tiebreaker) and went to the Rose Bowl. But I guess because they'd sucked for much of the prior 30 years, we should have given that bowl slot to Michigan or Ohio State, who OF COURSE were better, despite Purdue owning H2H over both of them that year. 

After all, if you look at Purdue's existence, that year was clearly a peak and the other 99.7% is much worse.

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« Reply #148 on: November 24, 2021, 02:15:17 PM »

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I have listed RESULTS ON THE FIELD that STRONGLY indicate that Cincinnati is NOWHERE near the top P5 teams repeatedly and you have steadfastly refused to engage in that conversation. 
??? I have engaed this many times. Here again.


Right now, Cincy is: 

  • 7th on SP+
  • 8th on FEI
  • 6th on F+
  • 6th on Massey composite
  • 8th on ESPN FPI

The idea that they are far and away from these other teams isn't just wrong, it is delusional. Simply put, I don't see that you have any argument here. I am taking your logic (let's look at how all these teams do against each other) and extending it to the entire season, instead of a handful of games. They are a good team who has won all their games. You keep wanting to give passes to similar teams when they lose a game, but if you keep giving passes to teams every time they lose games, what is the point of playing in the first place? No one seems interesting in answering that, probably because there is no answer.


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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #149 on: November 24, 2021, 02:18:30 PM »
I note that ND and UGA both have had fairly unimpressive slates.  Cincy won on the road at ND of course which is a better win than ND or UGA has, by a good measure.

UGA and ND have beaten more teams that are decent but unranked.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #150 on: November 24, 2021, 03:17:19 PM »
Yeah, so except for the years they win the lottery, they're broke.

That means their lottery years are worthless, right?

Purdue won the Big Ten in 2000 (via tiebreaker) and went to the Rose Bowl. But I guess because they'd sucked for much of the prior 30 years, we should have given that bowl slot to Michigan or Ohio State, who OF COURSE were better, despite Purdue owning H2H over both of them that year.

After all, if you look at Purdue's existence, that year was clearly a peak and the other 99.7% is much worse.
Is today "make a poor retort" day??

The argument is G5 should get a shot.
The data says they are not on the same plane as the P5.

So to pull Purdue's 2000 season out from the ether, okay.....the argument would be Purdue should get a shot?  But they already do because they're in the same conference as teams they're not on the same plane on (OSU, UM, etc).  The data (as you note) backs that up.

Not sure how there's a parallel here.  It's not about success being worthless.  

I swear to god, I haven't the slightest how some of you make these leaps from my posts.  It's truly bizarre.  
Purdue earned their way to the RB that season.  I don't understand how a team like Cincinnati can earn their way into the playoff with 9 G5 opponents + an FCS team.
Their 2-game season became 1, with IU falling off a cliff.
They won their 1-game season.
Get 'em a plastic trophy.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #151 on: November 24, 2021, 03:19:32 PM »

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I swear to god, I haven't the slightest how some of you make these leaps from my posts.  It's truly bizarre.  
The main issue is the lack of facts are your side.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #152 on: November 24, 2021, 03:32:54 PM »
You're too busy being an asshole to actually contribute. 
Evidently everyone is full of shit or conspiring against you.There is a song just for you,Enjoy


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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #153 on: November 24, 2021, 03:36:18 PM »
The main issue is the lack of facts are your side.

What facts are against me exactly?
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