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Topic: Second CFP Rankings

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MrNubbz

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #126 on: November 24, 2021, 10:11:32 AM »
Who on earth would be "legitimately great" as a two loss SEC or B1G team this year? 
Well Michigan will after this Saturday,just ask MGO Board 😎
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #127 on: November 24, 2021, 10:12:29 AM »
I can't think of anything that would devalue the regular season more than letting in a 2 loss Alabama or Ohio State.  Would they hold up better than Cincinnati?  Almost assuredly.  But I don't want to reward the "best" teams who lost 2 of the 3(?) losable games on their schedule, and pounded the bad teams by more than other teams pounded bad teams.
the REAL question is::: would a 2 loss Ohio State bring more fans to the stadium with tickets and turn on more TV sets?  You know, more money, more money!
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2021, 10:13:27 AM »
I'm a bit surprised it hasn't expanded into a top 50

in reality, anything out of the top 10 doesn't matter
Stop trolling Bug Eater/HORN Fans
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #129 on: November 24, 2021, 10:15:22 AM »
But look at that shiny red helmet, PAAAWWWWLLL!
Take that back - it's just low
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #130 on: November 24, 2021, 10:15:45 AM »
Stop trolling Bug Eater Fans
Did you just ask the world famous pot stirrer to stop trolling?

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #131 on: November 24, 2021, 10:17:06 AM »
See the EDIT ;D
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #132 on: November 24, 2021, 10:25:57 AM »
This idea that a P5 team is better than a G5 team no matter what the results on the field say needs to stop, please.
I call BS on this.  

I have listed RESULTS ON THE FIELD that STRONGLY indicate that Cincinnati is NOWHERE near the top P5 teams repeatedly and you have steadfastly refused to engage in that conversation.  Stop pretending that 12-0 = 12-0.  It doesn't.  My local High School was 12-0 at one point this season.  That doesn't mean they were as good as Georgia or for that matter Cincinnati.  They weren't.  

This Cincinnati team would be LUCKY to be mid-pack in the B1G.  They beat Indiana by 14 in a back-and-forth game in which they trailed in the fourth quarter and did not permanently acquire a two-score lead until less than three minutes remained.  Ie, it could have gone either way.  That same Indiana team lost 34-6 to Iowa in a game that wasn't even that close.  They also lost 24-0 to Penn State, 54-7 to Ohio State, 29-7 to Michigan, 38-3 to Rutgers, and 35-14 to Minnesota.  Yeah, I know Penix got hurt but note that the Iowa game was before that as was the PSU game in which IU got shut out.  

Cincinnati has a second common opponent with Ohio State in the form of Tulsa.  Ohio State's performance against Tulsa was embarrassingly bad and yet the Buckeyes still beat them by 21 points.  When Cincinnati played Tulsa they needed a goal-line stand as time was running out to avoid potentially going to OT.  

Cincinnati also struggled with absolutely terrible Navy and Tulane teams and now their blowout over SMU is hilariously being heralded as proof of their greatness.  Beating the crap out of SMU would be something of an accomplishment if not for the fact that Cincinnati is being treated like a legitimate NC contender.  No other NC contender would get credit for beating the crap out of SMU, it would just be expected.  Cincinnati gets credit for it because their schedule is so ridiculously bad that SMU is actually one of their toughest games.  That tells you everything you need to know.  

This was before last weekend's games but upthread I posted this table of tOSU's, Bama's, and Cincy's opponents by CBS' 1-130 rankings:

SMU is the second toughest opponent on Cincy's rinky-dink schedule.  They would be sixth on tOSU's schedule or fifth on Bama's schedule.  

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #133 on: November 24, 2021, 10:43:27 AM »
This idea that a P5 team is better than a G5 team no matter what the results on the field say needs to stop, please.
You're literally backwards on this.  You've gone against the results on the field.  

Honest to god, this is madness.

Name a G5 program with a winning record vs the P5.

Do you want the all-time numbers?  They're grotesque.

Not to mention most of the time a strong G5 team fails to go undefeated, they've lost to a fellow G5 team.  

This topic has turned comedic.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #134 on: November 24, 2021, 10:54:43 AM »


Not to mention most of the time a G5 team fails to go undefeated, they've lost to a fellow G5 team. 



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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #135 on: November 24, 2021, 11:32:54 AM »
Folks are allowed to express different opinions.  I get slightly amused when opinions are distorted with intent to make them look idiotic.

Could Cincinnati stay with Ole Miss?  I think so.  Could they stay with Ohio State?  I think not.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #136 on: November 24, 2021, 11:37:51 AM »
You're literally backwards on this.  You've gone against the results on the field. 

Honest to god, this is madness.

Name a G5 program with a winning record vs the P5.

Do you want the all-time numbers?  They're grotesque.

Not to mention most of the time a strong G5 team fails to go undefeated, they've lost to a fellow G5 team. 

This topic has turned comedic.
Math, how does it work? Come to the reality side, my friend.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #137 on: November 24, 2021, 11:40:18 AM »
How does a strong G5 team go undefeated with a loss to another G5 team?


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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #138 on: November 24, 2021, 01:06:21 PM »
and many times, if the G5 team has only a single loss, it's to a P5 team
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #139 on: November 24, 2021, 01:38:13 PM »


The point is that when is a P5's lone loss vs a G5 team?   
Nearly never.
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