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Topic: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2020, 02:22:09 AM »
Vandy, Florida, and A&M are on that level, and UGA isn't far behind.  With UTA and OU in tow, no one would turn down those dollars.  It'd be all the dollars.
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2020, 02:25:32 AM »
Vandy, Florida, and A&M are on that level, and UGA isn't far behind.  With UTA and OU in tow, no one would turn down those dollars.  It'd be all the dollars.
Texas doesn't need the money. They have more money than anyone and they think they are better than everyone. From what I've heard/read, A&M would try to block Texas, and that it's a moot point because Texas isn't interested in the SEC.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2020, 11:11:59 AM »
I'd guess Arkansas would also try and block Texas.

Texas would go PAC where they feel the academic reputation matches.  That's jmo, but I don't see Texas in the SEC.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2020, 11:27:38 AM »
I don't worry much about academic rankings, but I'll note Texas was #48 in the USN&WR group and UGA was #50.  OSU is #54 and PSU is #57.

Obviously, getting a good education is so dependent on all sorts of other matters rankings are "cute" and perhaps even useful in broad strokes.

UGA is not AAU of course as they lack a strong graduate program in most areas.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2020, 06:48:51 PM »
Umm, no.  None of this.

The realistic options for B1G expansion are limited to these, in order of preference:
1 - AAU schools bordering the footprint
2 - AAU schools within the footprint
3 - ND

So in Group 1, you have Missouri, Kansas, Virginia, Colorado (hmmph), and technically Buffalo (n/a)
Depending on who you add from Group 1, you could extend the footprint further with the likes of UNC, Duke, Utah, or Vanderbilt.
Group 2, you have Pitt and Iowa State
Group 3 is Notre Dame
That's it.

Now, I think the B1G could add Pitt and ND and be perfectly fine.
The options in Group 1 are interesting in pairs - getting Mizzou & KU or Virginia & UNC....that's probably what the conference brass would prefer over a Pitt/ND addition.

But I'd be reeeeeally careful if they're extracting Missouri out of the SEC.  If that actually happened, I think some tectonic plates would start shuffling - some big boys would be like stonehenge dominoes falling.  The SEC would then go after a Texas or a Texas/OU or UNC/UVA/VT itself. 

Anywho, that's how I see it. 

The whole idea that the Big Ten needs to add 2 teams for its next expansion may go out the window if the NCAA changes its rules for Conference Championship games. 

The Big Ten may decide to ditch its divisions and just have the top 2 teams go to the CCG.  In which case, they may expand to 15 only  if the right candidate is willing and available.  No need to add #16 to balance out the divisions.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2020, 08:26:18 PM »
The whole idea that the Big Ten needs to add 2 teams for its next expansion may go out the window if the NCAA changes its rules for Conference Championship games. 

The Big Ten may decide to ditch its divisions and just have the top 2 teams go to the CCG.  In which case, they may expand to 15 only  if the right candidate is willing and available.  No need to add #16 to balance out the divisions.
That would be a terrible idea. I like the divisions. If you can't win your division then you don't deserve to go to the CCG imo. And I hate the idea of a rematch. What if Ohio State and Michigan finish #1 and #2 in the conference- that game is the last game of the season every year. I for one wouldn't want to see a rematch. It's already been settled on the field the week before.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2020, 09:29:41 PM »
I don't think Texas would ever join the SEC. First of all A&M would try to block them. Secondly, Texas thinks they are too smart for you all in the SEC. Texas has actively been transforming itself into becoming a public academic powerhouse like Michigan or Cal and it already sees itself as a Public Ivy League school. They look down at the SEC. They think y'all are a bunch of dummies. Texas would join the Pac before they joined the SEC.
I'm pretty sure that you are right about Texas.  They have thought about Pac membership a lot over the years, I think.  And, as I understand it, they do not want to be part of the SEC.
There are some very good state-supported schools in the SEC, however.
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2020, 09:32:07 PM »
yup, and the Big 12 goes to 14
What four teams should we add?
Nebraska and what other three?
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2020, 09:34:44 PM »
colorado, missery, and Arky

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2020, 09:45:34 PM »
I like it.
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2020, 09:57:13 PM »
What four teams should we add?
Nebraska and what other three?
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2020, 12:53:56 AM »
Would OU ever make a move without Texas?  If not, isn't that sort of lame?  Put on your big-boy pants.
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2020, 08:57:41 AM »
We're bored, talking about new playoff designs and new conference alignments.  Happens every year in June or so.

Nothing wrong with that of course.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to thrive
« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2020, 01:57:46 PM »
Would OU ever make a move without Texas?  If not, isn't that sort of lame?  Put on your big-boy pants.
I’d bet they’d go to the SEC if the money was right. Texas recruiting is vital to OU. As long as A&M is there and they’ll play games in Texas every year I’d think OU would do it.

 

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